Smoking in the control room

[Rod S]

[quote]Originally posted by fantasticsound: [b]That said, I'm a non-smoker, and I'd hate to screw up a session because my head was pounding from the smoke, so, no smoking in the control room, and in my own space, not in the house. (Laugh all you want about my smoke-headaches, Alpha, but if you can't empathize now, just wait til you've been smoke free for a while. You'll be able to notice a single cigarette from across the room in no time! [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] Also, too bad I was OOT at NAMM! Everyone online says you're so nice!) Every smoker I know has been most considerate regarding no smoke around me, in general. If they must, they go outside. It ain't the cold that's a problem in Nashville. It may not be Austin, TX, but you can just about scald your lungs on the humidity and heat here, right now. [/b][/quote] I'm with Neil on this one. I know when someone lights a cigarette across the room the second they do it. It's like a sixth sense [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] My dad smokes, and needless to say, I never spent much time in the family room. I'm alergic as hell to it. I used to live in upstate NY and I made him go outside to smoke. I went home last month and was shocked how bad it was. I'm far from a pro musician, but I played once with a guy who had dreams of being a pro (he sucked), and I remember the studio being stuffy and clastrophobic as hell. Nothing is worse for a non-smoker to sit in a room like that. It's distracting and they won't be doing their best.

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[quote]Originally posted by alphajerk: [b]well i bought the patch today, its going to cost me $160 to quit!!! ack! life without my darlin nicotine. im so depressed already.[/b][/quote] Hey Alpha -- I wish ya the best of luck kicking the habit. I'm not a smoker, but I have friends who are ex-smokers... If you're able to quit, you'll probably feel a lot better on a day to day basis...

[Steve LeBlanc]

If you fail using the Patch...try buying All Natural Cigs (like American Spirits), you WILL smoke a lot less. Since I switched from Marlboro to "AS" Cigs I've gone from 1.5 packs a day to 5-8 cigs...for one thing each smoke lasts a lot longer. Besides why would you want to breathe in the 150+ chemicals they add to most popular smokes?

[rold]

[quote]Originally posted by Steve LeBlanc: [b]If you fail using the Patch...try buying All Natural Cigs (like American Spirits), you WILL smoke a lot less. Since I switched from Marlboro to "AS" Cigs I've gone from 1.5 packs a day to 5-8 cigs...for one thing each smoke lasts a lot longer. Besides why would you want to breathe in the 150+ chemicals they add to most popular smokes?[/b][/quote] Yup - no joke. I turned to American Spirits and I can barely handle them. Big difference from our weak Cdn. smokes to those, but I love the idea of chemical free. 150+ chemicals? I was under the idea it was 500+. Oh well, all the beterr - things may not be as cancerous as they seem... [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

[alphajerk]

i find the american spirits weak as hell.. i always want another immediately after putting one out. i smoke camel filters. the little booklet says pick a non-stressful time in your life to quit... when is that??? my female chow of 7 years now has kidney failure and might die by monday [at MOST 1-2months], BOTH my wifes grandmothers are in the hospital [one with a borken neck at 82... i wouldnt want one now nevermind at that age], i have 3 websites to finish and 2.5 albums to mix. needless to say i have been in more hospitals lately than i planned on in my entire life. BUT, im going to do it by the end of this month. im visiting my parents then and it will be a nice "present"... i think they would have a heartattack if i cut my dreads out too [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

[Tedster]

[quote]Originally posted by alphajerk: [b]of course im nice [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] just because i like to argue.... actually its easier in person since you see and hear my delivery. i can even make a "fuck you dude" sound nice, or at least it wouldnt piss one off. besides im a lover, not a fighter. well i bought the patch today, its going to cost me $160 to quit!!! ack! life without my darlin nicotine. im so depressed already.[/b][/quote] Alpha...I was a two and a half pack a day nicotine addict. I've been off 'em for sixteen years. It can be done...without the patch even. A couple of tips...keep the plastic end off a retractable ballpoint pen (minus the ink thing). Hold it between your fingers. Puff on it as needed. If anyone says you look ridiculous...whop 'em in the head with a brick. Carry those hot cinnamon toothpicks around. What helped me a lot were Halls cough drops. I wasn't even a menthol smoker, but something about those things really helped my craving, probably because they weren't too "yummy" like gum...they taste just disgusting enough to be vaguely reminiscent of a smoke, and they last a long time. Chew spearmint leaves...you can probably find some growing in your yard. Just make sure you wash it, so it doesn't taste like dog pee (pick the stuff that's far away from where Rover might lift his leg). Whatever you do, DON'T CHEW TOBACCO. It's even more addicting that cigarettes, and if you quit that, you'll go right back to smoking. But, you can do it, bro. If ol' Tedster did it, you can sure do it.

[D. Gauss]

<> is "Smoking in the Boys Room" OK? everybody knows that smoking ain't allowed in school.... -d. gauss

[Charlie-brm]

alphajerk, all I can tell you is my car audio buddy had been smoking as long as I've known him. I just accepted that's the way things are. He and his main installer quit cold turkey and he can barely shut up about how good he feels and we don't get together to share health tips. More energy so he's losing his gut instead of gaining like some people worry about, more time, more money. Of course it took recovery from pneumonia to have a reason to quit. So good luck. Smoke and equipment don't mix. An inspector at an airline told me he quit smoking the same day they tore down a jet's interior for maintenance and discovered none of the microswitches that control part of the emergency door system would have functioned. They were all fused with tobacco dust and tar.

[strat0124]

Alpha...where are you from? I rarely hear folks refer to a joint as a left handed cig.....I thought that was indigenous to my part of the country. I say it all the time here in Va Beach and not many know what it is. In Tejas.....it's as common as saying "BY GOD" in damn near every sentence.

[alphajerk]

the old folks up here in the smokey mountains. or they call it wacky-tabacky. i really got it from my friends gun-enthusiast dad who looks like elmer fudd... "see ya been smokin them left handed cigarettes" [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

[Anderton]

Gotta weigh in on the non-smoking side. It really does damage gear, the other problems are secondary. As to weed...well, if you're charging by the hour, it probably makes economic sense for the musicians to get blasted... When they here what they did the next day, they'll want to do the parts over [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

[Steve LeBlanc]

I've always been blown away by the parts I laid, especially the next day...I'll gladly admit here that I've been high when laying about 80% of the tracks I've recorded in my professional experience and recently. But then a lot of people don't dig our stuff so there ya go I guess... [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] This message has been edited by Steve LeBlanc on 08-02-2001 at 07:18 PM

[rold]

[quote] [b] As to weed...well, if you're charging by the hour, it probably makes economic sense for the musicians to get blasted... When they here what they did the next day, they'll want to do the parts over [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img][/b][/quote] hmmm...I dunno Craig...there are quite a few people that do the best work when they're high on clean green...I do my best work with a couple of beers in me; just breaks down inhibitions I guess

[rold]

[quote]Originally posted by d gauss: [b]<> is "Smoking in the Boys Room" OK? everybody knows that smoking ain't allowed in school.... -d. gauss [/b][/quote] LOL - I completely forgot about that song! The good ol' motley crue daze...oops - i mean days... [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

[Steve LeBlanc]

You mean the 'old Alice Cooper days' right, right? please say yes [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

[rold]

ummm....yes?...lol...I can't really remember those daz....er days... [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

[fantasticsound]

[quote]Originally posted by Steve LeBlanc: [b]You mean the 'old Alice Cooper days' right, right? please say yes [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img][/b][/quote] Ditto! (And I didn't FEEL old until I realized THIS is my frame of reference, too! [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] ) ------------------ Neil [b]Reality[/b]: [i]A few moments of lucidity surrounded by insanity.[/i]

[fantasticsound]

[quote]Originally posted by alphajerk: [b]...the little booklet says pick a non-stressful time in your life to quit... when is that??? my female chow of 7 years now has kidney failure and might die by monday [at MOST 1-2months], BOTH my wifes grandmothers are in the hospital [one with a borken neck at 82... i wouldnt want one now nevermind at that age], i have 3 websites to finish and 2.5 albums to mix. needless to say i have been in more hospitals lately than i planned on in my entire life. BUT, im going to do it by the end of this month. im visiting my parents then and it will be a nice "present"... i think they would have a heartattack if i cut my dreads out too [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img][/b][/quote] Sorry to hear of your current life sitch-ee-a-tions. I don't think you'll find a non-stressful time to quit, so good luck doing it ASAP. If you REALLY need a good way to keep from lighting up, think of all the gear you're gonna buy with the old smokes-money! (Yeah, right! We all know it'll be going to your kid! [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img] ) ------------------ Neil [b]Reality[/b]: [i]A few moments of lucidity surrounded by insanity.[/i]

[alphajerk]

well, my pooch died last night at 4:20am [how is that for timing?] i have given myself until the end of the month to quit smoking... most likely before then. the worst has passed now.

[Steve LeBlanc]

Without getting all sappy, sorry to hear about your dog, I've been there.

[DC]

Alpha, sorry to hear about your dog. I lost a cool pooch (Katie Maureen O'Shaunasee to the kidneys quiting. And 'Smoking in the Boy's Room' was by Brownsville Station, a Louisville band.

[fantasticsound]

[quote]Originally posted by DC: [b]Alpha, sorry to hear about your dog. I lost a cool pooch (Katie Maureen O'Shaunasee to the kidneys quiting. And 'Smoking in the Boy's Room' was by Brownsville Station, a Louisville band.[/b][/quote] Alpha, sorry to hear about your pet. DC. Smart Aleck!!! ;D You are, of course, absolutely right! You see, I AM old. The first sign is your mem... uh... memo.... you're ability to remember things, going! [img]http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] ------------------ Neil [b]Reality[/b]: [i]A few moments of lucidity surrounded by insanity.[/i]

[gae_layahoo.it]

The issue came up the other day with a local engineer friend that pretty much told me he wouldn't be booking my studio unless he was allowed to smoke, which got me thinking. hey,hey,wait a minute...who does this guy think he is?! was he taking the piss? you should tell him to book another studio,like.

[nursers]

major bump

[Tedster]

I somehow KNEW Nursers was on the loose... :D

[Barandine Vondenger]

if you wanna smoke and drank go to a stankin bar fer chrissakes! geesh la weesh but seriously folkes I ask folkes to smoke outside of my home so i would never allow smoking anywhere my equiptment could be damaged. never smoking where I'm sangin' OR breathing(I quit ciggies for a REASON after all. ) I simply cop a toke or twelve in the hideaway rooms off the main floors unless specificly DIRECTED. better for bidness and peace of minde. simple respect and COMMOn DECENCy is the order of the day.

[djwayne]

I don't have any problem with smoking in my studio, and all my gear works great. Yes, there's a little extra cleaning once in awhile, but it hasn't effected my equipment and some of my stuff is over ten years old, and I do keep my mics covered. I really think in the close quarters of a studio, smokers and non smokers need to need seperated, so I don't record in non-smoking studio's. I tried that once and it was such a big issue with the guy, I was a nervous wreck, I might accidentally break something. He couldn't stop going on and on about the evils of smoking. I went there to record music, not get a lecture, the whole session was just a bad experience for me, and I prefer to record at my own place. Likewise, I feel very uncomfortable with non-smokers in my studio, having fits even if I go into a another room to smoke. So I would say record where you are most comfortable. With my experience with non-smokers, it's such a big issue with them, I won't even bother working with them, as it will become a major problem to them eventially, then the insults start, and everything goes downhill from there.

[where02190]

Due to a careless smoker, a freidn of mine lost his entire studio to a fire, started by a cigarette. while the gear was insured, the building is a total loss, and insurance won't cover the whole brunt of the loss, just the gear and building. He's out of business, no telling when or if he'll come back. top that off with the insurance company investigating, and the potential that they will not pay because of the nature of the cause.... There is no smoking anywhere here except a designated area away from the building outside. there are ample buttcans (always with water in them to exstinguish) and anyone I catch not using them gets severely remprimanded. they don't like it too bad, I'd rather lose a client than my place of business.

[Prague]

DJWayne and I agree. My private studio is for adults only. I let musicians do as they please EXCEPT for insults, violence, and vandalism. If the atmosphere isn't to someone's liking, they have alternatives. I won't force my rules on "your" property, so you won't be able to dictate rules on my property. Peace (now [b]I[/b] sound like a hippie!)

[KenElevenShadows]

I can't stand smoke, so I would never allow it in my home studio or in my house, for that matter. In all the years that I have been recording people in my home studio, however, I have *never* once had to ask someone to smoke outside. Everyone is really polite and cool and go out to the back yard to smoke.