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Hollow body guitar - which one ???


jimibrix

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I am new here and need help with picking a new guitar. First off, I am a bassist/song writer and have been for 30 years. I play everything I get my hands on and pretty well with the exception of brass and bowed instruments. I started on piano at 4 and moved to guitar at about 8. I moved onto bass at 12. My guitar preference has always been the Gibson Les Paul, (which I own one of). Question : I would like to purchase a good quality hollow body electric guitar for my own work in my home studio along the lines of a Gibson ES style. My price range is not great. I'd like to spend about $600.00. What would you guys recommend out of the following choices for guitar brands, (all of whom make a good looking hollow bodies). Gibson ES models, Epiphone ES models, Dean Palomino models or the Ibanez hollow body, (I forget their name). The Gretsch and Guilds are far above my price range and are not being considered. What are the pros and cons of a Dean ? The Dean Palomino looks and sounds great but the price is so low, I am afraid the quality may be lacking, and that its sound may not last from the showroom to my studio after heavy work say 8 months down the road. What's the differences between the Gibson and Epiphone ES's, (the Epiphone ES series looks like a big bang for the buck, but how does the quality compare to the gibson ? Can anybody help ? I want to buy the right hollow body Beatles clean sounding guitar and get the most for my money without having to pay for a Gretsch. This particular project includes alot of Beatles type music which is why I need the hollow body electric at this time. Any input would be greatly appreciated...remember, I am not a guitarist so can use all the help I can get.
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Well since you're looking for a Hollow body Beatles clean sounding guitar, ES style, Then this Epiphone Casino model that they used so much sounds like it could fit the bill:

 

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/7/7/1/274771.jpg

 

Lookit them shweeeet P-90 Pick ups!! That is just Beatle city. I've seen 'em going for $599 new.

 

Only prob is I'm not answering your main question about construction quality as I haven't gotten my grimy mits on one of these.

 

Hopefully someone here has though and inform us about that. I'd also check the Harmony Central user reviews.

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There's at least three Gibson HB players here so I'm sure they'll chime in. In the mean time you might want to read this thread:

 

Clonk here.

 

And welcome to the forum. LP - I guess I didn't know anything about you when you wrote that thread.

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Welcome to the forum Jimibrix. I don't really know about $600 hollowbodies, but I have read good reviews on the Ibanez Artcores. Have you thought about saving your money for a year or two to be able to chose whatever guitar you may want. You could save for a used Gibson ES-335 or something similar. Good things come to those who wait. I would rather have one really good guitar than 3 cheap ones.
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Don't forget the Godin Montreal. Its Randy Bachman's guitar of choice. A bit more than $600, though, but not as much as a Gibby.
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Get a Casino. Play a bunch and make sure it is set-up properly. The only knock I've heard on the standard Casino is the Epiphone P-90 pick-ups are not as good as the Gibson P-90 pick-ups. I have never heard anyone actually mean when they say "not as good" though. The stock Casinos I have palyed all sounded great and were constructed well. The biggest differences were on set-up, shich can be corrected by you ar a good luthier.

 

BTW - I almost bought a Casino back '81. I ended up getting a Gretsch Tennessean. The Casino was a more versatile instrument but resisting the Bigsby was futile. :D

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Originally posted by miroslav:

Can't say enough nice things about the Ibanez Artcore line...and they have plenty of models to pick from all coming in under $600...with a couple just over.

 

I have two Artcore guitars:

 

AFS75T

 

AG85

Ditto! :thu:

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I played a friends Casino recently and really loved the sound of it. The neck was tiny though and I found it hard to play. Not that it was a bad neck, it was set up well, it just didn't feel right in my hands.
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Okay everybody... I went out of my way, bought two guitars and am very happy with both. Thanks for your help... I ended up with an Epiphone Casino (natural finish), and a black Gretsch Electromatic...(a full hollow body for specific tracks). Both will fit the bill for me and are very comfortable. Got a deal from Sam Ash on the Gretsch, and took the chance and purchased the Casino online... (Americanmusical.com) great business they have there... I know I complained about the cash although it really was no object, I've had moderate success and have what I need, (monetarily speaking). I just didn't need anything too elaborate for my little home studio. To me, (I am not a guitarist keep in mind), these are tools and must be efficient, comfortable, play and sound great, and I think I did very well. They do!! It's important to note that all of your replies were taken into account. That was one of the reasons why I chose the Casino. I love it! Great choice. The Gretsch was of my own choosing, when I felt it, played it, heard it, WOW... Thanks a mil...

I'm set. (Maybe a nice Strat in the near future), but I think with my Gibson Les Paul Studio, I can get most of the sounds I need on the guitar side... I now have to add my new additions to my profile. Thanks again, excellent, helpful and informative website you guys have here...

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Originally posted by jimibrix:

... I ended up with an Epiphone Casino (natural finish), and a black Gretsch Electromatic...

You have chosen well. I believe you and I could become very good friends. :D

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Jimibrix

Can I ask if you felt one had better build quality than the other, as recently i tried and electromatic which had been on a usable display for a while and it had taken a fair bit of abuse and showed it, which disappointed me as I love Gretsch guitars (6120 roool :D ) and i have also tried a Sheraton and Casino recently and they seemed really well built and a bit more solid.

For me you have got a couple of really good guitars there, but was just wondering if you had any thoughts on the differnce in build.

Cheers and enjoy mate for many years to come.

G :thu:

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I also vote for the Casino...I believe it's unique to the Epiphone line (i.e. not a mere Gibson copy). Excellent bang for the buck (on sale on musicians friend right now)! Same goes for their Dot line. My friend has a dot studio and it's an excellent guitar for the money. It's below your price range, but you'd definitely have enough money left over to upgrade pickups or buy some other goodies.

 

Keep in mind though, the Dot Studio is *semi* hollow, so closer to an ES-355. I imagine it would still give you a beatles-likes sound though.

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Okay, a rating of 'ruggedness', or 'tourworthyness' ? Well, your right 'Big G' about the Casino being fairly rugged. In my opinion, and nothing against Gretsch or anything but honestly, I would describe the Gretsch Electromatic full hollow body / semi cutaway as a delicate instrument. Like the Hofner bass, beautiful and delicate with a very distinctive and recognizable sound. Not really the type of instrument you would choose to tour with nightly on the grind. For my purposes this Gretsch is perfect. In the studio with care and my 2 year service plan from Sam Ash for as many setups as I might need for $40.00 it's great ! One of the ugliest guitars with its 'Frankensteinian' headstock yet most beautiful guitars at the same time. Sounds fantastic on the high end of a rhythm track.

Now the Epiphone Casino has actually become a primary instrument and has actually been used more than my Gibson Les Paul on my last 3 tracks, a rarety for me... As far as touring, in my opinion the Casino with good care is rugged enough to make it through unscathed...Still lightweight and delicate in it's own right. But it can never be as rugged as a solid body les Paul, Strat, so I think any of these hollow or semi-hollow guitars need special care on the road...

The Casino is an absoluetly beautiful guitar. Very comfortable. Nice flow on the fretboard. Almost plays itself... Very classic feeling and sounding. Very glad I picked the Casino. I did check out the Ibanez semi hollow series but oddly, I was always aware of playing an Ibanez, if that makes any sense to you. It just hung over in my head constantly as I played, 'Ibanez', 'I'm playing an Ibanez', I mean I know they make quality instruments, I owned an Ibanez Musician Bass years ago and loved it.

But my Gretsch and Casino, great investments, both of them.

Thanks again everyone,

Jim.

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Jimi

thanks mate for the update on the guitars,

I think I would agree with everthing you have said, yes the electromatic Gretschs do seem more delicate but very sweet and perfect for the studio, the casino a really good guitar but just feels a touch stronger but again great to play.

i just love hollowbody guitars, if i ever get the right amount of cash together i think either a Gibbo 175 or 335 are to be purcahsed, probably prefer the the 335 for playability but the 175 just has something very sweet about it, would make a nice pair with my Nashville.

I really think you have done well on your choices,

enjoy them for many years mate :thu:

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