here is a thought

[Guitarzan]

i have an idea for a thread,

first we choose a song and then we analyze it and discuss various points of the song, tone, solo (why those notes were cool).

really dig into the song and share how it makes us feel at certain parts.

maybe one section gives you chills , or another part seems too short etc.

or you really go deep and ponder the actual note choices and voicings of the song.

ie:

"man that g note at 2:30 is just sick the way it sets against the ? chord, who would have thought of that?"

[King Kamehameha]

Cool idea.

 

How would we ever decide what song?

 

I mean, I guess you could just go ahead and make the thread. Someone might take debate about the song. Whatever.

 

I like the idea! Awesome.

[Guitarzan]

we can use this thread to decide on a song.

[Shoes]

Led Zep: Celebration Song

 

It might not work here but I love this song and what he has to do to wrap everything together.

[King Kamehameha]

Hm, that's definitely a cool idea.

 

Know what we're not doing? We're not doing Stairway. I'm probably going to get bricks thrown at me for even saying the name.

[Guitarzan]

duck!!!

[Dr. Ellwood]

Joe Walsh, Life's Been Good.

[Guitar55]

Layla!

[Dr. Ellwood]

Soul Sacrifice, Santana

[Ricardo.]

I agree. Layla.

[Dr. Ellwood]

Blue Collar, BTO

[Guitar55]

Lee...you only get one vote! :-)

 

There is so much to discuss about Layla, it would be the perfect starter for this concept. Key changes, the "tacked-on" coda, all the guitar parts, myth, legend and fact.

[Dr. Ellwood]

Originally posted by Guitar55:

Lee...you only get one vote! :-)

 

There is so much to discuss about Layla, it would be the perfect starter for this concept. Key changes, the "tacked-on" coda, all the guitar parts, myth, legend and fact.

Oh! I didn't get that from what Zan said? I thought we where just looking to put together a big list to pick from? If I have to play Layla one more time I'm gonna go NUTS!!

[superdave]

How do you guys play the opening riff to Layla? The versions I've seen all show a hammer on and a pulloff, but when I listen to the song it sounds like those first seven notes are picked very fast. But I figure you guys know it a lot better than I do.

[Dr. Ellwood]

They are not picked at all, most of them are hammer ons and pull offs. In fact with the volume I use on that I don't have to pick at all!It's done with the same technique you use on the connecting riff between Gmaj and Dmaj chords in Sweet Home Alabama by Skynard..same feel to it. The open strings of coarse are picked.

[madgrinder7]

I know it has lots of sax...

 

but I vote for "Baker Street"

[Big Red 67]

Oh, Man. Thread gone wrong!

[The Geoff]

I saw Eric Clapton & Friends back in the late 70s or early 80s with Elaine Ellerman & Duane Allmann.

 

Duane played most of Layla with Eric just doing the solo. I had binoculars, and although I wasn't too far away from the action I still couldn't figure if he was hammering/pulling or just plain picking very fast. With Duane, both were possible.

 

Have a look HERE .

 

G.

[The Big G]

Ok guys so what song are we going to discuss, so many thrown into the ring.

Zan its your thread you start us off with a song for group discussion.

G

[Dr. Ellwood]

Originally posted by Geoff Byrne:

I saw Eric Clapton & Friends back in the late 70s or early 80s with Elaine Ellerman & Duane Allmann.

 

Duane played most of Layla with Eric just doing the solo. I had binoculars, and although I wasn't too far away from the action I still couldn't figure if he was hammering/pulling or just plain picking very fast. With Duane, both were possible.

 

Have a look HERE .

 

G.

Thanks Geoff, I read all the reviews, this one is my favorite, it nails that whole Phil Collins crew for me! :: Nowadays, Eric Clapton is the most overrated guitarist in the history of rock and roll -- what else can you say about someone who has inspired "CLAPTON IS GOD" graffiti? -- but he is also one of the most impressive of all six-string masters. Few white players have his understanding, his full internalization, of the blues; few players of any instrument anywhere -- including singers -- are capable of wrenching so many different emotions in so many non-manipulative fashions. The problem is that Clapton doesn't want it anymore. He feels he's already "done his bit," as the former Johnny Rotten says of his past nowadays. Clapton makes bland pop records and hangs out with Phil Collins; among non-dead rockers, he is a waste of talent second only to Rod Stewart. Once in a while, like on mid-eighties gigs with Carl Perkins and Chuck Berry, or even (horror of horrors) when admitted alcoholic Clapton recorded a beer jingle, he turns on the juice. Most of the time he can't be bothered.

[miroslav]

"Camptown Races"....?

[The Geoff]

Originally posted by ellwood:

Originally posted by Geoff Byrne:

I saw Eric Clapton & Friends back in the late 70s or early 80s with Elaine Ellerman & Duane Allmann.

 

Duane played most of Layla with Eric just doing the solo. I had binoculars, and although I wasn't too far away from the action I still couldn't figure if he was hammering/pulling or just plain picking very fast. With Duane, both were possible.

 

Have a look HERE .

 

G.

Thanks Geoff, I read all the reviews, this one is my favorite, it nails that whole Phil Collins crew for me! :: Nowadays, Eric Clapton is the most overrated guitarist in the history of rock and roll -- what else can you say about someone who has inspired "CLAPTON IS GOD" graffiti? -- but he is also one of the most impressive of all six-string masters. Few white players have his understanding, his full internalization, of the blues; few players of any instrument anywhere -- including singers -- are capable of wrenching so many different emotions in so many non-manipulative fashions. The problem is that Clapton doesn't want it anymore. He feels he's already "done his bit," as the former Johnny Rotten says of his past nowadays. Clapton makes bland pop records and hangs out with Phil Collins; among non-dead rockers, he is a waste of talent second only to Rod Stewart. Once in a while, like on mid-eighties gigs with Carl Perkins and Chuck Berry, or even (horror of horrors) when admitted alcoholic Clapton recorded a beer jingle, he turns on the juice. Most of the time he can't be bothered.

I don't disagree, Lee.

 

But I still listen & hear him through rosey colored specs (if you know what I mean).

 

Geoff

[Trucks]

There are glasses that make you appreciate Eric Clapton?? Wow, gotta get me some of those!

[Guitarzan]

i will let this go and then prepare a list for a vote.

get your choices in.

[LPCustom]

Wicked Gravity -- The Jim Carroll Band from "Catholic Boy"

[Dr. Ellwood]

Originally posted by Geoff Byrne:

Originally posted by ellwood:

Originally posted by Geoff Byrne:

I saw Eric Clapton & Friends back in the late 70s or early 80s with Elaine Ellerman & Duane Allmann.

 

Duane played most of Layla with Eric just doing the solo. I had binoculars, and although I wasn't too far away from the action I still couldn't figure if he was hammering/pulling or just plain picking very fast. With Duane, both were possible.

 

Have a look HERE .

 

G.

Thanks Geoff, I read all the reviews, this one is my favorite, it nails that whole Phil Collins crew for me! :: Nowadays, Eric Clapton is the most overrated guitarist in the history of rock and roll -- what else can you say about someone who has inspired "CLAPTON IS GOD" graffiti? -- but he is also one of the most impressive of all six-string masters. Few white players have his understanding, his full internalization, of the blues; few players of any instrument anywhere -- including singers -- are capable of wrenching so many different emotions in so many non-manipulative fashions. The problem is that Clapton doesn't want it anymore. He feels he's already "done his bit," as the former Johnny Rotten says of his past nowadays. Clapton makes bland pop records and hangs out with Phil Collins; among non-dead rockers, he is a waste of talent second only to Rod Stewart. Once in a while, like on mid-eighties gigs with Carl Perkins and Chuck Berry, or even (horror of horrors) when admitted alcoholic Clapton recorded a beer jingle, he turns on the juice. Most of the time he can't be bothered.

I don't disagree, Lee.

 

But I still listen & hear him through rosey colored specs (if you know what I mean).

 

Geoff

Ya know what Geoff, so do I! Clapton is a world class musician that cannot be denied, his adventures into other kinds of music and his concentration on blues or the last fifteen years I think left a hole in his rock catalogue that I miss. If you watch the two dvd set of Creams reunion concert at the Albert Hall both Baker and Bruce say Eric is really a jazz player at heart? they say that Cream was never a rock band? and that none of them ever really wanted to be and pretty much didn't care what the audience thought of what they where doing? It's just a good thing the audiences DID like what they did ay?? Anyway just wanted to say that no matter who Ol Eric hangs with he's still one of my heros!

[Bytored]

how bout Framk Zappa's "Cozmic Debris", Cool Song

[caprae]

Originally posted by ellwood:

Blue Collar, BTO

Now you're singing my tune. One of these days I'm going to be good enough to be able to figure this song out. I had to have a classical/jazz guitarist show me the E7 (played like a normal C7 on the fifth fret). Is that how you play that chord? Do you have a recording of your band playing this most excellent song?

[A String]

Originally posted by caprae:

Originally posted by ellwood:

Blue Collar, BTO

Now you're singing my tune. One of these days I'm going to be good enough to be able to figure this song out. I had to have a classical/jazz guitarist show me the E7 (played like a normal C7 on the fifth fret). Is that how you play that chord? Do you have a recording of your band playing this most excellent song?

I'm with both of you guys. This song is one of the ones that made me aspire to be a better player.

[Chad Thorne]

Originally posted by Geoff Byrne:

I saw Eric Clapton & Friends back in the late 70s or early 80s with Elaine Ellerman & Duane Allmann...

Not to be a PITA, G., but I think you mean Yvonne Elliman

 

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/cft3/yvonne.jpg