Dr. Ellwood Posted August 3, 2006 Author Posted August 3, 2006 Originally posted by guitarzan: arrrrrrr http://www.thestringnetwork.com
Gifthorse Posted August 3, 2006 Posted August 3, 2006 $1200 for the whole band? http://flagshipmile.dmusic.com/ http://www.myspace.com/gifthorse
Dr. Ellwood Posted August 3, 2006 Author Posted August 3, 2006 Originally posted by flagshipmile: $1200 for the whole band? No, each. http://www.thestringnetwork.com
Pappy P Posted August 3, 2006 Posted August 3, 2006 arrrrrrggggg. Avast and heave to. http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_RttBAtJEBV0BUwujzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12b8tsr9c/EXP=1154700225/**http%3A//www.cinemaeye.com/images/uploads/sparrowsdad.jpg www.birdblues.com My Stuff On Sound Click
Pappy P Posted August 3, 2006 Posted August 3, 2006 What would ye be having me do now Jack. Practice me scales and tapping with no volume or gain. I'm thinking that won't be happening. Arrrrrrr http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_RtmgAtJEkIwAg6.jzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=1245ujm0e/EXP=1154700320/**http%3A//www.movievillains.com/images/barbossa.jpg www.birdblues.com My Stuff On Sound Click
Pappy P Posted August 3, 2006 Posted August 3, 2006 Hello Poppet. http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_Rq1wA9JE6YIAh5ajzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12p25bsr9/EXP=1154700528/**http%3A//www.actionfigurecollectors.com/images/news/neca/pintelclam.jpg www.birdblues.com My Stuff On Sound Click
Justus A. Picker Posted August 3, 2006 Posted August 3, 2006 Originally posted by Xplorer: Originally posted by Justus A. Picker: Originally posted by Xplorer: quote:Originally posted by ellwood: Well actually it sounds right IF you are not a dumb ass. If you are then it doesn't sound right, I noticed pleanty of people didn't think there was anyting at all wrong with it. I'm not talking about the question. I was trying to figure out why you would expect to upset people. Because experience has shown that some metal fans are extremely defensive about the music they like. If a post contains the word "metal" but does not contain the word "awesome" they get tense. Whether or not all that head banging is also the cause of poor reading comprehension has not been researched..... ...maybe the headbanging and comprehension is directly related to tooth loss. Where do those teeth end up? It's banjo playing and/or over-exposure to country music that results in tooth loss. http://www.smokedsalmonband.com/exile/exile1.jpg
Braxat Posted August 3, 2006 Posted August 3, 2006 nooo, not the actual banjo playing, its more like the action your friends take after your done with the banjo.. knucklesoupfordinnerlunchandbreakfast. I Am But A Solution In Search Of A Problem.
The Bear Jew Posted August 3, 2006 Posted August 3, 2006 I dunno... I'm a metal guy... and I play banjo, too... I still have all my teeth. And I'd like to meet someone who has the stones to try and knock a few out. \m/ Erik "To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting." --Sun Tzu
Dr. Ellwood Posted August 3, 2006 Author Posted August 3, 2006 " still have all my teeth. And I'd like to meet someone who has the stones to try and knock a few out." I dunno buddy.. with you being from Philli, I bet there are a few around, if I remember Philli..and I DO!! http://www.thestringnetwork.com
The Bear Jew Posted August 3, 2006 Posted August 3, 2006 Ell, you may remember Philly, but I live in it. You know what I mean? \m/ Erik "To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting." --Sun Tzu
Dr. Ellwood Posted August 3, 2006 Author Posted August 3, 2006 Yeah I know what you mean,ok ok so youz got the street covered. http://www.thestringnetwork.com
Dr. Ellwood Posted August 3, 2006 Author Posted August 3, 2006 Bump for FlagShipMile to read about IEM's Flag, yes it's VERY loud, but remember the venue we play in all the time is VERY large. And we have a keyboard player that is very FULL sounding in fact his sound is huge, so playing guitar with him makes me play at high settings. The 50 watt Marshall on the normal channel is at full open and my guitars are at 1/2 to 3/4 open, with the Hbugger guitars I can pull up only the volume go on the neck pickup and get instant sweet feed back all day long. The Klon is in the mix all the time now on the normal channel at it is driving the Marshall into overdrive and lets everything happen dynamically from the guitar volume setting alone. With the Strats I do the same thing, but remember along time ago I talked about always using a very old reliable Shure mono six channel mixer... both types of guitars go into that mixer first, the Hbugger channel is set lower, the single coil instrments are set higher.. I get the same kind of dynamics out of the single coils that I do with the Hbuggers. The volume we spoke of is not even addressing a very full and accomplished drummer and the bass player runs two SVT bottoms and a SVT head and it through the PA subs. Yes it's loud but more than that it's very full sounding. The guitar player (ME) has got to play full out nearly to stay in the mix where I should be. It works well. The IEM's we chose total where around 1200.00. If you want to have the same mix in everyones ears you can just use one transmitter and individual body packs, but if you want different mix in each singers ears you have to buy a transmitter for each singer ...we chose individual transmitters for each person the drummer likes to use just one and still have one floor wedge that carries the instrument mix, the best investment a vocal band could make! LINK: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/P6TRE3/ http://www.thestringnetwork.com
Justus A. Picker Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 What's the SPL that's hitting your eardrums with those things? As an old fart I'm really concerned with the health of my hearing. I already have mild tinnitus and even tracking with headphones at slightly high volume for over an hour can aggravate it. http://www.smokedsalmonband.com/exile/exile1.jpg
Big Red 67 Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Originally posted by Justus A. Picker: What's the SPL that's hitting your eardrums with those things? As an old fart I'm really concerned with the health of my hearing. I already have mild tinnitus and even tracking with headphones at slightly high volume for over an hour can aggravate it. Tinnitus is a bugger. Kids squeeling is damn painful! Big Red's Ride Blog
THE_GREAT_PHAT_KAT Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Originally posted by ellwood: I was wondering how metal players rehearse? Do you rehearse at full playing volume always? Before rehearsing I always do some man-napping for our pre-rehearsal and pre-show rituals. Yes, man-napping. I kidnap men from the pathetically unsuspecting villages I visit. Then I peel the skins off a few, put a few others on all fours and... well, you get the point. Please understand I need to practice at full volume in order to cover the screams a bit. Then, I grill their gonads and make them eat them. My grill is highly portable--it's actually a laptop upside down, w/ a toaster-oven grill on top. I know, I'm a genius, like Bach and Beethoven before me. I need no catering, I eat human flesh and drink human blood. Then I beg the surviving humans to come buy tickets to my shows, but that's another topic. What about the remaining villagers? I make them write my name THE GREAT PHAT KAT on the walls. I make the villagers worship me. Then I go around asking "who thinks Joe Satriani is worth a damn"? If someone raises his/her hand , that pathetic hand comes off!!!! Wes Montgomery? Jimi Hendrix? Jimmy Page? Robben Ford? BB King? Yngwie Malsmteen? Steve Vai? Allan Holdsworth? [What a joke! Right now they should be begging for my mercy!] I don't need to touch the villagers, I just reach for my fretboard and assault them w/ a barrage of notes from my claw of death! MY CLAWWWWW OF DOOOM MEEEEOWWWWGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!
Dr. Ellwood Posted August 4, 2006 Author Posted August 4, 2006 Originally posted by Justus A. Picker: What's the SPL that's hitting your eardrums with those things? As an old fart I'm really concerned with the health of my hearing. I already have mild tinnitus and even tracking with headphones at slightly high volume for over an hour can aggravate it. SPL's are very low, very comfortable to use and easy on the ear drums too! we went from JBL floor wedges with 2X12 with horns to ear and can hear so much better so these eliminated one Crown model 2000 and six wedge monitors and 4 hot spots!! the IEM's have built in safe-gard against volume spikes or peaks, very smooth sounding. Because we got each player his own transmitter each guy can adjust exactly what he wants to hear in the mix. http://www.thestringnetwork.com
alittlebatty Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 What's with the "psycho post???" I've never seen this person post before....
Ricardo. Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Psycho!?! YEAH METAL. Last night I went to a concert where my friend's band played (some sort of emo deal), then this grind-core band played, which sounded like loads of sludge and screaming, but it was quite a sight to watch. Then these techno "bands" arrived, which consisted of one man with an iMac dancing in place singing in a mediocre fasion, and the other "band" consisting of some small programming elf running between keyboard and mixers while his friend wore tight pants and rapped about curse words. It was not very fun. But funny.
thanny XIII Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Ur my new best friend kat. i love violence . i prefer roasting babies at my shows though, it's more black metal. I knew a girl that was into biamping,I sure do miss her.-ButcherNburn
Justus A. Picker Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Originally posted by ellwood: Originally posted by Justus A. Picker: What's the SPL that's hitting your eardrums with those things? As an old fart I'm really concerned with the health of my hearing. I already have mild tinnitus and even tracking with headphones at slightly high volume for over an hour can aggravate it. SPL's are very low, very comfortable to use and easy on the ear drums too! we went from JBL floor wedges with 2X12 with horns to ear and can hear so much better so these eliminated one Crown model 2000 and six wedge monitors and 4 hot spots!! the IEM's have built in safe-gard against volume spikes or peaks, very smooth sounding. Because we got each player his own transmitter each guy can adjust exactly what he wants to hear in the mix. Thanks! So using the IEM's effectively lowers the stage volume with the removal of the monitors. It must make life much easier on the soundman! http://www.smokedsalmonband.com/exile/exile1.jpg
A String Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Originally posted by Batgirl7: What's with the "psycho post???" I've never seen this person post before.... It's an old inside joke. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music
Dr. Ellwood Posted August 4, 2006 Author Posted August 4, 2006 Originally posted by Justus A. Picker: Originally posted by ellwood: Originally posted by Justus A. Picker: What's the SPL that's hitting your eardrums with those things? As an old fart I'm really concerned with the health of my hearing. I already have mild tinnitus and even tracking with headphones at slightly high volume for over an hour can aggravate it. SPL's are very low, very comfortable to use and easy on the ear drums too! we went from JBL floor wedges with 2X12 with horns to ear and can hear so much better so these eliminated one Crown model 2000 and six wedge monitors and 4 hot spots!! the IEM's have built in safe-gard against volume spikes or peaks, very smooth sounding. Because we got each player his own transmitter each guy can adjust exactly what he wants to hear in the mix. Thanks! So using the IEM's effectively lowers the stage volume with the removal of the monitors. It must make life much easier on the soundman! Yes allot easier! I am not aware of the lower stage volume beause of wearing the monitors, but we can get as much instrument mix through them as we want and of coarse all the vocal we want, the reason for the individual transmitters back at the soundboard is so the soundman can mix and send what we want to hear in our IEM's...that Shure system is really a high quality system. I bought 4 sets and got the fifth one at 1/4 of the price. Anyway if you never have experienced IEM's you should get a demo, when we where looking into it a rep came out to our gig and put one on our drummer who could never hear anyting and that did it!!!! when he went nuts on them we said OK..we will buy them. http://www.thestringnetwork.com
Xplorer Posted August 4, 2006 Posted August 4, 2006 Yea, who let the Kat out? What a horrible night to have a curse.
Dr. Ellwood Posted August 5, 2006 Author Posted August 5, 2006 Bump, I want to just make sure FlagShipMile got some of this conversation about IEM's http://www.thestringnetwork.com
doc taz Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 Whew... with all the whining, I'd have enough gas money for a year. Okay, to answer the post, I do more practicing at home through a decent set of semi-enclosed, studio style headphones and my ZOOM GFX-5 processor. The only thing missing here is the harmonic and microphonic feedback when facing a guitar a few feet away from a speaker cab, but I actually don't care for that effect much. I tend to start off playing with a clean tone for about 20 minutes, and then go through varying degrees of gain, until I have the most dense, punishing tone I can handle. Most of the time, when I do try to figure out scales, or picking runs, or even some tapping, yes, I do them all clean at first, using the neck pickup with the guitar volume and tone turned up full. (I'm not a very fast player, but I'm working on that. Hopefully, I'll bust a few metronomes along the way. ) Nothing like playing live through a beefy setup, and killing a few rats... CHUG CHUG CHUG Lately, though, for whatever reason, I've actually been playing with more of a clean tone for nearly everything. sevenstring.org profile my flickr page
doc taz Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 Ok, I totally missed that until I backed up. I got something for ya, kitty kitty! sevenstring.org profile my flickr page
Gifthorse Posted August 6, 2006 Posted August 6, 2006 Thanks for the information lee, GOD I would love to get some of those. Tonite we played and the vocal monitors were not good. We sounded good but there were some screwups when we listen back. Not big ones but I want it to be perfect. On one song I didn't do my backups because it was in the range where I really need to hear it and I couldn't. Some stuff I can sing in my sleep, but some stuff I need to hear it a little.. I improvise all my solos. It is weird when you improv because you are sometimes just digging yourself out of a hole the whole solo, but then you listen back and it sounds cool. I thought I played average tonight but I have some cool solos that, in the moment I thought sucked. Weird how your perception plays trix on you (no I wasn't stoned) You can play a solo live and think "god I suck" and then listen back and the stuff you noticed that you thought was off, isn't.. Wierd. Unfortunately for vocals it isn't that easy. I went off like 1 or 2. But so did those fartfaces. The IEMs sound like the way to go. Sux they cost so much, but I guess you get what you pay for. Maybe I will get crazy and try using walkie talkies or something. No? I like to convert no's into yes. No? http://flagshipmile.dmusic.com/ http://www.myspace.com/gifthorse
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