Penguin Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 I'm looking to buy an EQ Pedal to get a better tone to my sound, since from my last post you guys said it would help me a lot. Just need some suggestions to buy which? the more bands one is the better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 If you can find one (On Ebay etc.) Look for the Boss parametric EQ. It is the best EQ pedal I have ever used. Mine was stolen a few years ago. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcat Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Most EQ pedals are noisy (I have a Boss Graphic EQ and can attest to the fact with regard to its noise level). If you want to get a good one, you may want to consider getting a modified Boss GE-7 Graphic EQ from Brian Wampler at indyguitarist.com . His modification reduces the noise level and changes the frequency adjusted by the lowest slider on the pedal. It allows you to get a bit more thump out of your amp. Mudcat's music on Soundclick "Work hard. Rock hard. Eat hard. Sleep hard. Grow big. Wear glasses if you need 'em."-The Webb Wilder Credo- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 I found the model number for the parametric EQ. It was the Boss PQ-4. That baby made my electric sing and my acoustic sound like it was studio quality. It's a thing of beauty and with the Sweepable mids, you'll be happy. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 i was looking at http://www.jimdunlop.com/products/electronics/mxr/products/m108.html but it's no rackmount. but i see a lot of people use it. ill check out that pq-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 ah the pq-4 isn't either. it's not longer in production though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 As great as Graphic EQs are, once you try a parametric EQ, you won't go back. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Isn't what? A rack mount? I thought you were looking for an EQ Pedal? I believe they made a rack mount version of the parametric EQ called the PQ-50. It's even harder to find then the Pedal. I did find a place that has a used PQ-4 for $135. There is also a Moded one on E-bay. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 can i have a link to the moded one? whats the difference between parametric and graphic and the pedal and rack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcat Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Originally posted by A String: As great as Graphic EQs are, once you try a parametric EQ, you won't go back. I agree - the GE7 is just more readily available. Mudcat's music on Soundclick "Work hard. Rock hard. Eat hard. Sleep hard. Grow big. Wear glasses if you need 'em."-The Webb Wilder Credo- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gifthorse Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 What do you want it for again? I always liked the BBE sonic Maximizer. It doesn't filter your signal and take anything away like an EQ, it actually adds something---I am no expert but I have heard this from some knowledgable sources. http://flagshipmile.dmusic.com/ http://www.myspace.com/gifthorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 just to play with my tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Click Here. There is a modded one and a regular one up there now. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted June 9, 2006 Author Share Posted June 9, 2006 whats the difference between parametric and graphic and the pedal and rack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicalhair Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Hey I dont' know what thread you were told you need an EQ (or if I'm twisting what was said out of context), but I'd say very rarely does a guitarist need an eq pedal. That isn't to say that if you had one and it wasn't too noisey that you couldn't find a lot of uses for it-- you certainly could find at least a few uses for it. But for over all "stock" tone creation I'd think it should never be needed and only a last resort. You've got your guitar and your amp to get you the stock tone (and what ever you think is like a base-line distortion if that is your bag). I've seen guys use an EQ for lead playing (though often I think a "boost" or something else would serve better). All that aside, I love my Furman PEQ rack mount. They don't make them anymore but they can be found used. I should be owning two of them right now but I missed out on the second, that is how much I think of that device. check out some comedy I've done: http://louhasspoken.tumblr.com/ My Unitarian Jihad Name: Brother Broadsword of Enlightened Compassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warthog Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 Originally posted by flagshipmile: What do you want it for again? I always liked the BBE sonic Maximizer. It doesn't filter your signal and take anything away like an EQ, it actually adds something---I am no expert but I have heard this from some knowledgable sources. I'm a huge fan of these too. In fact, if I had to pick one pedal to keep forever that would be it. I love it so much that I have a Sonic Stomp for easy mobility and a rackmount 882i for my studio. Try one out...you may find that tone you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janalon Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 I've seen the sonic stomps in stores, read reviews on HC, went to their website - everything short of playing one. The comments seem to say that they add "clarity" and help define low end. ??? I guess this description doesn't help me much. Can someone actually describe what they do or how they work. Thanks http://www.wordsareworlds.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Fraser Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 << I've seen the sonic stomps in stores, read reviews on HC, went to their website - everything short of playing one. The comments seem to say that they add "clarity" and help define low end. I guess this description doesn't help me much. Can someone actually describe what they do or how they work.>> The BBE devices use a proprietary design to enhance perceived brightness. Unlike a high frequency equalizer, which boosts amplitude at or above a certain frequency range, the BBE uses phase delays to simulate an accelerated transient response, resulting in increased brightness without an increase in volume in the highs. It works at what it proposes, as does the Aphex Aural Exciter circuitry, which uses harmonic generation to arrive at a similar result. These devices have fallen into disfavor in the pro studio world, but still seem to exist in the guitar scene. The BBE will get you more high end clarity, but so will a switch from an LP to a Tele, a crank of the presence knob on the amp, or backing off on the compression. Scott Fraser Scott Fraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Fraser Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 <> A graphic EQ is a bandpass equalizer with slider-type gain controls for each frequency band. Thus, the position of the faders provides a "graphic" representation of the frequency or spectral response. A parametric EQ usually uses rotary knobs to provide control over several state variable filters. Usually 3 or 4 bands are provided, & technically, to be termed a parametric EQ, there must be "Frequency", "Bandwidth", & "Gain" controls for each band available. The Boss pedal does not, & therefore is just a sweep EQ. Anyway, you get much more control over tonal response with a real parametric EQ, & thus that is the type used in pro studio work. Graphic EQs are generally found in PA systems for quick & dirty tuning out of feedback frequencies & counteracting of room modes. < This is just a packaging choice. A pedal has to run on a fairly low voltage while a rack unit can have a much more robust power supply, & generally doesn't have to cut corners in componentry to the same extent as a pedal device. Scott Fraser Scott Fraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Fraser Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 <> I think it's not a question of need. If the combination of tone controls on the guitar & the amp provide the sound one desires, you're set. OTOH, if you want some more specific frequency shaping than the very general controls usually available on amps, an EQ pedal will do that very effectively. But, EQ in a pedal does tend to be a lot noisier than the units we typically use in studio work. Scott Fraser Scott Fraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicalhair Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 This pedal looks seriously sweet, and with Carl Martin's rep for good stuff I'd have to think that it would fit the bill nicely, maybe even be better than the rack mount furman I got because I don't love rack mount stuff and dream of the day where I need a "River Dance" type troupe to operate my pedals for me http://www.electriccitymusic.com/Qstore/p000410.htm check out some comedy I've done: http://louhasspoken.tumblr.com/ My Unitarian Jihad Name: Brother Broadsword of Enlightened Compassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teahead Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 The Danelectro Fish & Chips EQ pedal is well known for being astoundingly good value, about $30 brand new I think. Probably won't satisfy a lifetime of EQ requirements, but it will certainly fill a hole for a while and help you gain an understanding of what EQ pedals do. From there you could well decide to invest in something else. Tonejam offer the Sniper mod Boss GE-7, which removes the awful hiss of the stock design and gives more output. There are also the MXR ones, the many Maxon & Ibanez incarnations to be found on ebay, BJFE's Sea Blue EQ, Carl Martin's and many others I'm sure. Pedal Clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplorer Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 I use the Boss GE-7. It works great for my tone (strictly metal). I could definatley recommend one. Mine has the Monte Allums mod installed, but it still rocks without any modification. I've wanted to try the MXR KFK eq, but I think I'll stick with my GE-7. Hey A-String! I'm with you on the PQ-4. I got rid of one like the idiot that I am (see the Thread Of Shame!). Can they even be purchased anymore? I used one with a BOSS Digital Metalizer. It was a distortion box with built in chorus and doubler. I also pawned it off. Oh, what a fool I am. What a horrible night to have a curse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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