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Every so often, I listen to out-of-tune music on purpose and like it, and I vote. But it's usually the XXedo type, instead of whatever uncanny valley that harpsicord was summoned from. Here are some musical examples that I unironically like. I saw you chuckle when I said "musical"... LISTEN FIRST, hey. Some of these might not make you want to kill. Everyone loves King Gizzard, right? Quartertone yellow Steinberger: 22edo and 5/4 time, Sevish - Gleam: 31edo (try from about 1:30 onward): JI, but unusual note choices: 15edo Lo-fi: Well, that's enough easy listening. Here's the reverse engineered harpsicord from the Roswell crash, finally used as the ETs fully intended. The MIDI controller in the last 2 videos is called a car down payment... er... Lumatone.

I'm going to try, as much as possible, to avoid the influence of psychopathic groomers. And lose weight, of course. And make music that will stop humanity from killing ourselves and everyone else. I'll call that last one a stretch goal🤪 maybe more aspirational than likely, but who knows?

It was iconic enough that people gutted them so they could tour with other keyboards inside the shell: ^Cordovox/Moog White Elephant Here's a relatively recent but still iconic piano, just due to sheer ridiculousness: ^Klavins 470i Even though it's already been mentioned... for me, nothing says "keyboard synth" like a Minimoog. There are today keyboards that everyone instantly recognizes, like "Nord red" or Keystep, but whatever. Luckily, there isn't a single keytar that stands out as iconic.

Headphones (DT990, SRH440, M-100) plugged into phone, computer or Livetrak mixer/recorder, playing mp3 or wav files I ripped from CD... or else I stream from YouTube. Sometimes I'll plug my phone and my Yamaha CK88 into separate Livetrak channels, so I can play the keyboard along with YouTube music, and still record both tracks separately. Then I import the wavs from the recorded YouTube track into Audacity audio editor on my computer, and trim it (dead space, or split a show into separate tracks), bring the level up, and even add fx if I'm feeling cheeky. Then I'll export the tracks as mp3s and wavs, and send the mp3 copies to my phone, so I can listen later without streaming. I also have hundreds of CDs and at least half a dozen working CD players (including car, boombox, walkmen, USB DVD burner, home stereo system, home DVD player, old Bose wave radio, Marantz practice assistant with timestretch to slow the CD music playback down digitally...) and both active and passive JBL monitors... and yet I mostly listen to my ripped, or streaming, versions of them, thru headphones.

I really dislike the tone of my 15" Behringer keyboard amp for anything but loud synth bass (I bought it for Minimoog bass). In theory, the 10" version should sound much better for regular keyboard instruments. But, under the given circumstances, it seems kind of snooty for the guitarist to complain about it.

I've already got the Prophet VS waves in my Wavestate, which is ok because Dave Smith worked on the original Wavestation... which was by Korg, so that can justify the VS waves in the Kronos, too. And the Groove (3rd Wave) guy also worked for Dave, so he can use the VS waves too... but did either of them order the waldorf salad?! Just kidding. I'm not gonna buy a Crave, Edge or Swing, but reenacting an analog 80s synth, but with more voices, and a polyAT keyboard, and selling it for under $1200... I don't see any issues with that. If, after over 5 years in development, someone finally opens one up, and if it looks remarkably similar to the voice circuits in an OB-X8, then I'll change my tune, about that. I'm not rushing out to buy one. I'd rather have an UDO Super Gemini. The UB-Xa is a third of its price. That's the part that's tripping me out. Once these actually ship to people, we'll know more. For polyphonic aftertouch, there have been more options lately. I think Native Instruments also announced a polyAT controller keyboard. So did Korg, and everyone knows the Hydrasynth, and Iridium and Quantum 2. Osmose has a polyAT mode. The 88 key Yamaha Montage has it. Once the UB-Xa is out, that will represent 5 different key manufacturers - Medeli, Fatar, Yamaha, Behringer, and Expressive E (I listed them last because those are the most different from regular keys, and also they're OEM, AFAIK).

Oh, I remember this is the song I used to play when I was grounded, and I was determined to go outside. Kids today don't understand... staying inside all day used to be considered a punishment. Isn't that backwards? Now the punishment is you have to leave the house!

There are things I prefer the Volca touch strip for (mostly for legato patch flipping with percussion patches), and things I only could do with a Continuum (very bendy sounds, like strings, and I'm trying to do lap steel style playing, which sounds so MIDI when I attempt it with a keyboard and pitch wheel). Otherwise, I'll happily take a Yamaha GHS or BHS in exchange for portability. For faster stuff, I think I'd like Korg's "natural touch" synth keys (Kronos etc) in a waterfall shape. I like that key action, for faster playing... but for that type of playing, I have weird technique that would be freer if I didn't have to be conscious of lips and gaps and sharp edges on keys. However, I'm no virtuoso, and I don't need perfect conditions. It's actually probably for the best, if the shape of the keys keeps me from Sun Ra-ing the keyboard too hard or too often. I already screw around too much as it is. But that would be close to my ideal synth/organ keyboard (Korg natural touch waterfall). I've tried the recent Vox Continental - it's nice, but those keys aren't exactly what I'm talking about. Still, if that had to be my non-piano board, I wouldn't complain.

Wow, my memory wasn't wrong for once. Mine is the Keystation 49es. I originally bought the Alesis V49, so I could play the Kronos from around the room, via USB. The Alesis gave me stuck notes with the Kronos, so I traded it for the Keystation, which was plug and play and just worked. The weight feels about the same as the Korg Wavestate, so I'd guess about 6-7 lbs... but I'll see if I can find a scale that's accurate in that range, when I get home.

The best bass preset in a 25 key keyboard: Yeah, yeah, I know... but listen to the damn thing. If it only had real keys, it would be perfect for the OP. Instead, you get chicletas for keys. Still, I want one just for that preset.

Mine's in storage... for some reason I thought it was called Keystation ES🤣 OMG. It has no DIN connection, and I bought it new 5 or so years ago. I'll check when I go to storage (it's on top, in its box, an easy check), unless someone finds a definitve list with a size/weight chart, in the meantime. It's a 49 key, no sounds.

Well, I mean, if I'd found a YC for half price, I'd probably get that too. I didn't like the user interface, but even that aspect looked classier on the YC... just more annoying to use. But other than the user interface, the YC is "better" - that's why it would've cost me literally double the price. The deal you got would be highly unlikely around here - someone just sold a K2661 for like $200, on Craigslist, and then the buyer had it back up for $1500 the next day, then dropped it to $850, and then it disappeared. Weird situation. But something newish like a YC will only very rarely be advertised much below market value here. As far as what I'd actually do... I wouldn't buy either 61-key. I didn't like the keys. AFAICT, the waterfall keys may as well have been the same mechanism as the CK61 keys, just with a different shaped front. For my playing, it required too much force to overcome their inertia, compared to the resistance during the remainder of the key travel, so I had difficulty playing soft notes while getting the notes to reliably trigger. Then again, I've had people tell me the YC73 and CK88 had totally different types of keys (in addition to the grading difference) so IDK. They said the YC73 had individual keys, and the CK88's were ganged live-hinge keys. I have a feeling they're both the same mechanism. If the YC61 keyboard is easier for you to play, and it has sounds you prefer, and is built better, and you even prefer the UI, and it was cheaper for you? Then yeah, keep that one. I'm not sure how helpful all this will be for others, because the smokin' deal was part of this equation.

For me, I wanted piano keys. I probably could've gotten a display model YC73 for $23-2400. I got a much more recently displayed CK88 for $1200. If I could've found a used YC73, in great shape, for $1200... I probably would've bought that. I really like the UI and fx paradigm on the CK, though, much more than on the YC. I wish it had more variety of weirder fx. I really liked the modeled and FM organs on the YC better than the CK's samples. I really like having a couple of knobs for the filter, and a quick and easy way of deciding which layers get controlled by those knobs at that moment. I don't remember if the YC had an easy filter section like that (the YC would've cost me so much more, so I didn't get too deep with it. Plus, the user interface on the YC wasn't quite as intuitive as the CK, so I had to focus on my immediate goals more than free exploration). So... I wanted piano keys and portability, and the YC/CP88 weighed too much for my preference... so it was between CK88 and YC73, which weigh about the same, and have very similar keys... That's another thing - I like this keybed for what it is, but I felt like $23/2400 (it was marked at $2599!) is a lot of money for them to ask for a keyboard with that keybed. But if they were the same price... that's a tough one. For me, with my kinda unusual needs, it would depend on how easy it is to work with fx and filter on the YC. If that checked out fine, then I'd take the YC for the slightly better sound quality (apparently) and better build quality. Since the YC would've cost double what I paid for the CK, my choice was easy, and for my purpose, it's been great. Well, you asked which we'd choose. It's not necessarily a slam dunk.

Well... the organs on the YC are different from the CK... the B3 is different, and in the YC, some of the other organs are FM, which isn't possible in the CK, whose organs were transplanted from the Reface YC. But the part of the statement that compares the YC and CK is vague - is the word "sounds" supposed to carry over from earlier in the sentence, or is the statement saying they both share the same "organ and synth focus"? It's a weird sentence However, it seemingly clearly states that the pianos and EPs that are shared by the CP and CK should be the same (there are some unique pianos, too, but it really seems to say that the shared ones are identical). And, by the commutative property of CP and YC pianos, that means that the YC and CK shared pianos and EPs should be identical samples, as well. I have a CK88, and have tried a couple YCs, but I didn't do a detailed listening of the identically named pianos on both, back and forth, thru the same monitoring. I really should've, and if they still have the YC, and get another CK, next time I go, I will try that test. Maybe the output gain stage is better on the YC, or maybe the headphones amp, if that's where you tapped the keyboards? Maybe the fx were different or set differently? Maybe the velocity curves between the 2 keyboards were different enough that the YC was triggering a louder velocity layer, which might sound fuller, with more overtones, despite you playing with similar dynamics on each board. I've actually been layering the pianos, including a very overdriven mono CFX buried very low, but when I take it away, the fullness of the sound is gone. However, I was needing a piano that cuts thru, so my particular combo wouldn't suit you (I layered the overdriven mono piano with an upright and the "live" piano - not your first choices for fullness, however). If you make a layered combo for fullness, you could use chorus and lots of damper resonance on one for width and air, and on another piano try the layer effect EQ and a layer effect short reverb, for added body. Also use a little bit of global reverb. And if you want to try something weird, turn on the global delay (between the layer fx and the reverb) with the time at 2 and the depth way up at like 120. Try both cross delay, and analog, types, in case one sound less annoying to you. Then, turn down the depth until it's no longer annoying. I really wish there was more resolution at the short end of the delay times (I forget what the time knob is called... it might be another name... but I mean the knob that sets the time between delay taps). 2 is a good time for consonance, but by 6, I already getting really metallic. This isn't really an appropriate hack if you want perfect fidelity - it adds artificial fullness, and additional stereo shenanigans if you picked cross delay as the delay type. Also, the CK seems to have 3 different settings that govern velocity curves, touch response, and per-layer offsets. If you compare the CK61 with a YC61, make sure that all 3 of those settings are the same (if possible) in both boards. I didn't organize my thoughts on that very well, but those are my ideas on the topic. I'm curious whether the pianos and EPs are really the same, too, or else what the differences are. I'm still really happy with the CK. I think I'd layer the sounds no matter how full they start out... it's habitual, especially when it's one of the chief sound design tools available on a particular board. So, I wasn't layering them because I thought they sounded thin. For reference, this keyboard was upgrading from a Yamaha P-115. The basic CFX piano seems pretty similar between both, to me.

You should be able to load DX7 patches into your Kronos. You'll have to search for how. Nautilus is just like Kronos, minus the physical controls, and with a new "dark mode", a very slightly different screen UI, and some new presets. The MODX7+ at least is different from what you have now. I've only used the MOD-7 (Kronos/Nautilus) not FMX (MODX+) so I can't co.pare the 2. I know you didn't mention PCM samples, but I've found that Yamaha and Korg have different tendencies and strengths, so the MODX+ can complement the Kronos in that way, too.