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20 minutes ago, Floyd Tatum said:
In that Facebook Reel that I linked to in my original post, I notice that Jesús has put on a lot of weight. Maybe he's the next Joey DeFrancesco! 🙂 Just kidding. Jesús, if you're reading this, there's plenty of time to pull it together. Regular exercise, a better diet. You can do it man. It seems a shame not to maximize those good looks that God gave you!
Then again, I don't know how old that reel is. In some recent Youtube vids, he seems to be in better shape.
He was at NAMM. Seems to be taking care of himself as far as weight goes. And he’s up to speed on the Domi / JD Beck trend.
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From what I’ve seen -if they use an actual singer with a similar range and is able to mimic the original singers trade mark rhythm and phrasing habits - the AI timbre conversion is going to be spot on. It’s not as accurate using text to vocal or a live singer who doesn’t have anything in common with the artist you’re attempting to duplicate.
I’ve heard some Sinatra knock offs with AI that are immediately recognizable as fakes because the vocal they fed the timbre conversion had none of what made Frank Frank - wrong phrasing, wrong rhythm. Just copying the timbre is not enough to fool us.
It’s very strange seeing us digitized AND duplicated so easily - it’s almost sad. But then again, maybe we’re all just characters in a simulation anyway.
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Badge made with AI
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It might be to one’s benefit to include Human Made or No AI in the liner notes and artwork.
The industry and governments need to get their shit together quickly on new copyright and IP rules. What’s their plan to compensate all the copyrighted digital material that was fed to the robot?
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I’m guessing we’re looking at a further devaluing of recorded music/digital music, especially in genres where AI is already excelling.
Possibly an increase in value of live human music - especially of the acoustic nature.
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Better Schmetter. Can’t we appreciate their contributions without making this a contest! 🤓
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48 minutes ago, ProfD said:
Yeah...no. 🤮🤣
I *hate* pressing a key and hearing a semi- or full arrangement of music blaring out.😁
Maybe I'll have a different appreciation for arrangers or backing tracks if I'm ever a senior citizen confined to Shady Pines assisted living facility and asked to provide music during the geriatric social hour.🤣😎
Me too. But that’s technology. Next we tell AI to play the set.
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17 hours ago, ProfD said:
IMO, LH Bass gigs should be approached as its own thing similar to an organ trio.
Songs/tunes should be reharmonized as necessary to account for the pinch hit.
Technology certainly provides KB players with a variety of instruments and sounds to cover bass duties too.
Playing LH bass can be a total blast when done properly.
Otherwise, a solid Bass player is worth their weight in B strings, er, bottom.😎
Yamaha Genos, or a similar app on your iPad - pass on the bass player and drummer. keep the fee for yourself rather than split 3 ways. 😉
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On 4/25/2024 at 10:47 AM, ElmerJFudd said:
Oh nice, then it’s a required paid firmware upgrade. 😂
Woody is a sage!
Roland should have spoken with Apple on this. Incremental update is sold at same price as discontinued model. That’s how you get to a trillion dollars. 😉
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3 hours ago, Coker said:
My long-time bass player in my sax-keys-drums-bass quartet had to cancel out just before a gig recently. He’s not as good as we’d like, so we decided to play the gig with (my) left-hand bass instead of dredging up a replacement. What a blast! We were able to play, on the fly, intricate and interesting interludes, backgrounds, etc., that sounded orchestrated and rehearsed, mainly because I could coordinate piano and bass lines and rhythms. While I missed the interaction with the live bass player, I thought we brought a different dimension to the group. Does anyone else typically play without a bass player (organists - no need to respond about your prehensile feet!)
If you have a strong bass player, it’s a blessing of course for him/her to free you up for other tasks. But yeah, if you take that job it certainly gives you a lot of control over how things are going to go!
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20 minutes ago, Stokely said:
Yep, $200. I know because I've been looking at the Fantom 6, which before any coupons was selling everywhere for $2999. Sweetwater shows the "Fantom 6 EX" on preorder for $3199.
Oh nice, then it’s a required paid firmware upgrade. 😂
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1 hour ago, RABid said:
The Fantom EX 7 is $200 more than what I paid for my new Fantom 7 so I came out just fine. The real deal is the sell off prices of the non-ex Fantoms. $400 off the Fantom 7.
Ideally you’d want to find a standard Fantom that the seller has already updated with EX firmware. 😏
Is the new model a price increase over what the previous was selling for last month?
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I imagine that many Fantom owners must have gone for the paid firmware update? Perhaps this is where the concept was first tested and how we arrived at a stripped down RD-08 with a paid firmware update to RD-88 features.
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“the EX Upgrade (plus any previous upgrades like multisampling and 2022’s Virtual Tone Wheel Organ) now comes standard in the new FANTOM 6 EX, FANTOM 7 EX and FANTOM 8 EX synthesizers.”
“New for 2024 is the JX-3P ACB Expansion. Similar to the plugin version but retuned for the FANTOM EX, this adds the classic ‘80s poly to the FANTOM workflow. This means that not only can you play it as a single tone but you can layer it with ZEN-Core or Multi-Sample tones. (You cannot use it V-PIANO or another ACB Expansion, unfortunately.)” - free download for EX owners.
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6 minutes ago, pjd said:
I had a chance to play one today. Wrang it out for an hour at GC Lynnwood, WA.
Not bad. Short story, it's Analog Lab in a box with a decent keybed. I enjoyed playing the EPs especially. As to my own use, I need the Augmented Brass and Augmented Woodwinds which are not part of the current content load.
A lot more comments here: https://sandsoftwaresound.net/arturia-astrolab-yes-i-played-one/
Concerns about price vs. competition have already been discussed and I share the concerns.
Have fun -- pj
P.S. Thanks to the folks at GC. It's a lot more sane to try an instrument on a Wednesday morning with nobody around ...
Additional engines might be forthcoming, more possibilities for those that can edit on the software version. And I wonder if they’ll do a 73/76 or an 88k weighted (not a stretch from their controller offering).
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6 minutes ago, CrossRhodes said:
Look three posts up. 😄
I’m late today. Not much times for keys. 😫
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As mentioned, N-Track Studio is up to version 10. ntrack.com/ios-multitrack-studio.php
Logic Pro for iPad https://www.apple.com/logic-pro-for-ipad/
FL Studio for iOS https://apps.apple.com/us/app/fl-studio-mobile/id432850619
Cubasis is up to version 3 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cubasis-3-daw-music-studio/id1207839273
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I have a suspicion that this particular advancement, as opposed to digital instruments and sampling (which has been embraced largely due to lack of access to all the analog and acoustic instruments it can sound like) will usher in a big musical luddite movement. A marketing point (as mentioned above) “made without AI” both in recordings and live shows.
Social media clearly shows there are more people than ever in the world who are playing instruments, making art, writing books, etc. entirely without AI. Do they/we really have any interest in filling our minds with robot art? This type of material seems more inclined for commercial use in advertising, low budget soundtracks for video.
How hard will it become to tell the difference a year or three from now. That remains to be seen.
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Just now, AROIOS said:
It'll likely open the floodgate and exacerbate the already litigious state of our society.
There's only so many interesting combinations of melody, harmony, rhythm and timbre out there after all.That’s true - particularly obvious in popular music. So - what’s the answer to that? Maybe there is no answer. Recording and publishing aren’t a viable business. Back to concerts and merch.
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13 minutes ago, AROIOS said:
That sounds like a business opportunity for SoundHound and Shazam. In addition to helping users identify songs, they can help copyright owners scan A.I. generated music and then charge/sue the users/creators at scale.
It'll also enhance user experience for their existing users and finally achieve what Pandora and Spotify should have done better: "Finding songs that feature elements that resemble the one I'm listening to."
For example, here's a short list of songs that "ripped off" "What a Fool Believes". I've always wanted a software service that compiles lists like this automatically. But both Pandora and Spotify fall short of achieving this level of intelligence.
Robbie Dupree - Steal Away
Fenis Henderson - Making Love
Joe English - Midnight Angel Choir
I think that’s what I am trying to ascertain. Is there a difference between recycling compositional elements and recording anew vs. sampling and actually reusing the inspired by recording?
For example, Taylor owns her re-recorded albums. The original masters are owned by Scooter Braun. There is some confusion there between mechanical and publishing rights.
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1 hour ago, MathOfInsects said:
I don't see a problem with AI training with copyrighted material. We all did that, right? We played existing songs of all styles until we got good at whatever is we do.
It seems certain that some of the future musical landscape will be AI-related, forever. I can foresee entire Sirius stations that play AI-generated music. I will think that's pretty cool. I just want it labeled as such, so people can still seek out people-generated stuff too.Non GMO music.
When we learn from recordings or from a teacher or from watching, listening, etc. we sit down a record ourselves, ya? Or use royalty free or licensed samples for building arrangements, making a new recording. I’m wondering how much of an AI generation is newly recorded or if samples used are being licensed.
But these are ideas that we are familiar with in our culture and governance. There are plenty of regions in the world where IP isn’t a thing.
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