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As a band leader, stem splitting gets used in many places. Live recordings of our band always have drums bleeding into the vocal mics, so splitting off the vocals (without mangling them) helps on the remixes. Same for drum mics that pick up bass, etc.
If someone is struggling to hear a certain part, I can isolate it from a recording and say "try and make it sound sort of like this".
Once we're able to separate stems in near realtime (no perceived latency), it'll be a real big deal for live sound and digital mixers.
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Playing a small bar on a hard-drinking Sunday afternoon. Middle age gal decides to give middle age guy a full-on lap dance in front of the band. She drags a chair in front of us, sits her guy down, and gets busy.
It's horrifying, but we can't look anywhere else. The drummer gets hypnotized by her rhythm: faster, slower, etc. and the rest of us have to follow along. For a while, it's almost like crazy theme music for a bad movie scene.
Fortunately, the owner broke things up before it turned X rated, 'cause that's where it was going. It took a song or two before we fully recovered.
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I do sound for my band so I get any channel strip I want.
I run a L/R mix across the full range -- no separate channels for bass, organ, etc. I make the APs sound great, and go from there.
A little mild compression helps me sit better in the mix. I scoop midrange EQ at ~400Hz -2dB to clear some of the mud. A mild bit of reverb, if it's a dry environment like outdoors, otherwise go with room reverb. Less is more.
Noise gates don't belong on digital keys channels, period.
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3 hours ago, Motif88 said:
I recently decided to change my setup and purchased a Montage M8x. I seriously considered the Nord Stage 4 HA-88 but the lack of an audio interface, fixed split points and no poly aftertouch pushed me to the M8x. I still long for a Nord as I’ve owned lots of gear but never a Nord. Lately, I’ve been considering a Stage 4 73 Compact but the list of Stage 4 bugs (50 issues) posted on https://www.norduserforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23739 and attached (Excel) is concerning.
Lot’s of $$ even for the compact.
Asking real Stage 4 owners, are these real issues that impact your use of your Stage 4 or are they just more social media whining?
Thank you!
TI'm a longtime Nord user and NUF forumite.
For the vast majority of NS4 owners, the product works as advertised.
The exception appears to be complex midi setups, where some things don't work as expected yet. Most everything else is minor nits that Nord will get around to addressing at some point, as they did with the NS3. I've found the NS4 more stable than the NS3 that preceded it. Zero complaints.
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Just now, D. Gauss said:
why do you need personal mixing stations? You're unable to use the CQ4you monitor phone app?
Of course, those can be used. Also, the sound person could potentially be responsible for the mixes in each performer's ears. Or some combination.
To be effective during a performance, you'd need a phone that was mounted on a stand, supplied with power for a four hour gig, configured not to accept any interruptions, and have the user be comfortable with a small screen at a distance.
Or you could get personal mixing stations. The performers like them much, much better.
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If I were buying small digital mixers again, it'd certainly be the A&H CQ series vs. the familiar Behringer XR-18. I had a chance to hear one live -- you can tell the difference in the preamps and the FX -- just a notch above.
I'm planning to move to the SQ5 and sell my X32 Rack and all of its accoutrements. The A&H unit itself isn't all that expensive, but add in six personal mixing stations, powered ethernet hub, digital snake, cases, etc. and it gets pricey quick. The new front end will be 4x QSC LA112s and 2x KS118s.
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BI -- Before Internet -- many young people like me grew up immersed in music. There wasn't a lot else to do that was fun, entertaining and social, especially if you weren't athletic like me. Parents signed their kids up for all sorts of musical activities -- lessons, choirs, bands, etc. -- at an early age, probably to keep us all busy. Lots of kids played instruments, sang, etc.
As a result, there was a healthy and diverse ecosystem of music stores in the SF Bay Area in the 60s-70s. All gone of course. The internet changed how people experience music, and putting retail music stores out of business was just one consequence.
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Early in my career, it was predicted that the new spreadsheet technology (Lotus 1-2-3) would put all the accountants out of work. That didn't happen.
If I were to get paid to produce music for clients, this tech looks like an enormous time-saver to me -- let the AI do the first draft, and have the human takes it from there.
It's already a timesaver in the graphic arts, copywriting for advertising, screenwriting, research, etc.
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6 minutes ago, D. Gauss said:
Since PA speakers "don't sound as good," are your sound guys using KC400's for the FOH PA mains?
Yes, as sound tech for my band, I'm building a PA system out of unwanted KC 400s salvaged from the town dump.
Plenty to choose from, but they smell a bit off.
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12 minutes ago, MathOfInsects said:
I don't see a problem with AI training with copyrighted material. We all did that, right? We played existing songs of all styles until we got good at whatever is we do.
It seems certain that some of the future musical landscape will be AI-related, forever. I can foresee entire Sirius stations that play AI-generated music. I will think that's pretty cool. I just want it labeled as such, so people can still seek out people-generated stuff too.Agree completely. Musicians have been shamelessly copying each other forever.
I'm sure there will be branded AI-generated music on the shelf for consumers to choose from, just like all the other choices.
That being said, none of the AI efforts to date do a good job of sounding like it's human generated: the music, the photo, the movie, the text -- whatever. It's all got a synthetic vibe which people will either like -- or not.
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Band members get PDFs from me (chords, lyric, performance notes) with a link to a reference YT video in the title.
When I sit down at my instrument to learn something, that's what I need. If someone wants to listen in the car, they can put together their own playlist using their own service, etc.
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The synth section on the NS4 is deep enough for me, and there's three engines to work with. The NS3 was no slouch either. Sure, a real analog synth would sound a bit ballsier, much in the way a real Hammond and Leslie combo would be ballsier than its simulated B3 section. It also helps that there's a ton of programs ready to go for popular songs via the forum.
Having all the sound generation on a single master board makes it easy for me to step through setlists during the gig vs. coordinating multiple pieces of gear between songs. I remind myself of that every time I start itching for another keyboard.
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Guitarists train their ears to recognize certain guitar tones: pickups, effects and so on. Keyboard players do the same thing, we learn to recognize and recreate piano sounds, organ sounds, synth, horns, strings, etc.
The suggestion to start with preset surfing is a good one. If you can download an inexpensive (or free!) soft synth, it will likely have hundreds of presets to explore and discover how they were created. Along the way, you'll learn about different wave types, filtering, LFOs and all of that.
Just running through an online course likely won't be as satisfying as exploring on your own.
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On 4/13/2022 at 3:18 PM, jazzdoc52 said:
im playing with a fairly loud rock band, and just cant get enough volume from my amps. ive got a spacestation xl, but have to crank it to max volume to compete with the guitar and miked drums. thinkiing about adding a sub woofer .. any comments?
First, use ear protection if you're playing with loud clowns like this.
A Spacestation XL is VERY LOUD for a stage amp. If you can't hear yourself, that means the overall stage volume level is wayyyyy unhealthy and unprofessional.
If the band PA is miking the drums, it can mic the keyboards as well. I would ditch the stage amplification and use inexpensive IEMs. Also, no way would I haul a SS XL around to gigs -- that thing is a beast.
If they won't let you run through the PA, they're not serious about having a keyboard player.
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I'm a band leader, and the guideline I've set is "life comes first, then we play music". So family, work, health and other obligations always take priority, unless there's a gig involved. Then hard choices have to be made. Two of our band members make their primary income through performing, the others have days jobs, or are retired like me.
Yes, that means we play less often than many of us would like. But when we do, everyone is fully present and is very appreciative -- and can really engage. Sure, we'd prefer to be playing music over just about anything else, but that's not always possible. All of our spouses are very accommodating and enjoy our passion -- within limits.
It's working pretty well four years running.
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I can turn into a heavy-handed beast when I get going. I'd be worried I'd snap one of these like a twig ...
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An extra 15 lbs on a keyboard is like an extra 15 minutes on your commute -- it doesn't sound like a big deal until you do it a hundred times. Then it's a big deal. I used to throw out my back with heavy 88 boards years ago -- no longer.
If your primary focus is gigging (vs. home or studio), weight matters, simplicity matters, immediacy matters and so on. For example, I switched to a 73 weighted keybed vs 88 and it was a nice improvement in my overall gigging experience. My NS4C comes in at 23 lbs, my NP5 at 34 lbs. I don't feel compromised on the NP5 action.
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I'm mostly a piano/organ player, but when synth parts are called for, the synth section of the NS4 is derived from the Nord Wave 2, which itself a synth more capable than I.
Put differently, I couldn't see myself dragging around a dedicated synth unless the music *really* called for it, which is unlikely.
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A better sample might help a bit. It appears you're playing in mono? Real-world acoustic grands have a ton of stereo signal information, which will never sound as good in mono.
However, you can do additional channel strip processing on the Nord acoustic grand sounds to make them sound really "big" in a live setting, mono or stereo. The built-in Nord features are a great start (esp. on the NS4), but you can go farther with sophisticated EQ, compression, imaging, reverb -- each adds a bit to the sound.
My current channel strip is a powered DI to a X32 (band mixer), that gets me access to a nice audio toolkit to shape keyboard sounds, including acoustic grand pianos. Lots of recording and fiddling yielded a great sound that's "big" but doesn't crowd out other mix elements.
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I see a lot of these around, and they sound great at smaller venues:
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/IP1000V2--turbosound-inspire-ip1000
The Pro 8 looks much better than the L1 Compact on paper. I'm sure it would be fine as well.
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You'll find the L1 compact unacceptable for most keyboard work. The response curve has a pronounced "boom" below 400 Hz, and can't be EQ'd away. Annoying as hell.
I had one and sold it to a solo singer/guitarist, as it's perfect for that sort of work. There are other non-Bose similar designs that are quite good, but stay away from the low end stuff.
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It looks like you loaned the board to a werewolf during a full moon.
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Walmart and others have a $699 deal on a M1 Macbook Air. More machine than you'll ever need in the ultimate portable package. Apple is unlikely to obsolete the hardware for many moons. Enough battery life to get through a gig, too. Add a USB-C port expander, and that's my target computer rig.
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I quickly misread this as Vintage Vibe leasing a more affordable model.
I thought for a moment -- has it really got to the point where instruments are so expensive that leasing is the only option?
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Shhhh.... Touring musician pay
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The same concept exists in the business world, where it's called the "golden rule" -- the guy with the gold gets to make the rules.