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Any others played this semi-weighted 88 - how does it feel to you? Similar to CK-61 keysboard? For those, like me, who’d like to see an SL compact SE w/73 keys - I think SL wants us to pay a bit more for the Numa X 73…. BTW Numa X 73 weighs about 25lbs.

Schlep is the right word for it - how often have i wished I could’ve taken up harmonica or violin? spare your back! I use a lightweight fold-up hand truck …works well. Attach heavy duty wheels on the bottom of your amp or speakers - roll em if you can! A Nord Electro is a good compromise on weight for performance Yamaha CK-61 is soooo lightweight, but with only 61 unweighted kys (Wish they’d make a 73-key CK version) Numa X 73 - at about 25 lbs for a weighted keys - it ain’t too heavy.

Yep. A = 440 Hz is a helpful standard, I guess. For an odd tangent on this subject, there are YouTube videos on the benefits of 432 Hz tones and tunings…. suggests they influence your brain, resonate with the universal frequency, or help with focus and to reduce stress. That cosmic frequency stuff - I am dubious. What is time? I listened to 440 vs. 432 Hz tuned guitar playing, but didn’t get a different vibe. Even if tuned down or up a bit - it was the melody, rhythm, and timbre - that seems to convey feelings, more than slight tuning variances.

I did not see Numa x 73 for $999 - that would be surprising….maybe a demo model? They are usually $1300+ The Vox Continental for $999 at Sweetwater seems a good price….but not a weighted keybed tho

lower priced ($1000-1500) smaller (61 or 73/76 key) stage keyboards - your thoughts to compare? Yamaha CK61. 61 non weighted, many sounds, drawbar sliders, built in speakers, pitch and mod wheels, USB midi 12 lbs! $999 Price/weight/features are great - question is the Korg keybed Vox Continental (discontinued) 73 semi? weighted waterfall keys with piano, organ 16 lbs! tube drive. fast slow Leslie switch also pitch bend. LED drawbars No speakers. $999. vox sounds! Waterfall, not weighted. Has some great sounds and coolness factor. Kurzweil PC4-7. 76keys. 19lbs $1500 Does Roland make a 73 key? Why doesn’t yamaha put their weighted 73 keyboard onto the CK61? What is Korg bringing out now that Grandstage and Vox Conty are going away? Weighted: The Numa x 73 is weighted keys and ~26lbs. nice polyphony and downloadables. pitch/mod joysticks !? $1330 How do you like playing piano or e-piano on this board? There are many 88 key digital pianos too… heavier weight and larger size Casio PX5S is 88 weighted key - weight 24lbs. $1099 The Yamaha CK88 (weighted keys) is 29 lbs for $1300 Roland RD 88 weighted keys. 30 lbs. $999 Kawai ES520. 88 weighted 32 lbs. $1400

CK61 has a handy switch on the back to turn off speakers. Such a lightweight keyboard! Punches above its weight? ;)

OK. - this looks like it is now OK to upgrade the OS? ”This update provides important security fixes and is recommended for all users. It also fixes an issue that prevents charging with the Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter. https://support.apple.com/kb/HT201222 I am not very tech savvy - did you try it. Does your camera adapter still work with an older iPad?? :)

How does CK-61 keys work for playing piano? Compared with SL Numa x 73? everyone has different opinions about keybeds. I like the CK-61 (light-weight!) but Numa X 73 has weighted keys - Your comments are helpful - checked a few stores near me, and these keyboards were not available for a test drive. Thx

Nord stage killer? CK-88 at $1.5K sounds good…. But the smaller CK 61 has the synth key action? So …. Yamaha sells the P121 - a 73-key weighted keyboard. ($1K). Yamaha also sells the CK-61 (not weighted! $1K) and the CK-88 (weighted, $1.5K, large!) Where is the portable CK-73 with weighted keys and the CK-61 guts. priced at $1300 vs SL Numa x 73 ? Let us small-gig/couch-players know know what you think of playing pianos on the CK-61.

Hi - love the more portable stage keyboards and prices. the Yamaha CK-61 has many great features at 12 lbs, about same price as a P121 with 73 weighted keys at 25 lbs will Yamaha offer a WEIGHTED CK-73? For about $300-400 more the Numa x 73 offers their weighted key action, and more functions and upgradability. Also look at the Yamaha P121 for the lowest cost hammer action 73 key. Currently use Kawai MP stage and Nord Electro - but would love an all purpose, light weight, but a good keybed for piano/Rhodes. Sudiologic SL73 works using iPad - but still not an all in one board.

Hi all - thanks for your comments about using iPad for music/midi and the heads up about upgrades. Question: I use an old iPad Air (3rd gen) because it has the headphone/audio output that I run to a PA. A USB keyboard is input to the iPad using the camera adapter. I use the NeoSoul keys a lot. I have a powered USB hub, but I’ve been using a dedicated power supply to keyboard. 1) With this setup I hear no delay (latency) in hearing sound as I play keyboard. In other setups using Bluetooth to a speaker, I did experience sound delay to the speakers. Q: Do you use WiFi or Bluetooth in your rig, or do you have an audio output from your iPad direct to speakers/PA? 2) During sets, I unplug the USB from the Powered USB hub to the iPad camera adapter because I get clicking noise unless unplugged. This does not seem to depend on using USB to power a keyboard, or when I use the keyboard’s power. The noise comes from the USB power. (Since the iPad battery lasts pretty well - I don’t charge it when I’m playing/connected to speakers.) Let us know if you have any tricks to isolate your audio signals from power source noise? Thanks!

Great comments in this thread… we all wish for the ultimate EP keybed. If price is no object… boards in $2500+ are pretty amazing. The Kawai MP11SE is very good, but heavy. But how about the new entry level boards as a bottom board? Yammy P121? Korg D1 or Casio S3000? Costs < Numa X. As with old Casio Previa’s. Sometimes a keyboard < $1000 can still be acceptable basic sound & action. Let us know if you’ve played the new entry level under 25 pound keyboards? Thx!

Thank you to all the Numa X users for comments…. I miss the old “Keyboard Mag” shootouts where they compare various pianos or synths. Nothing beats playing keyboards yourself (if you have local stores/access) but the comments from players on this forum are super helpful! I would love a comparison of playing Numa X 73 ($1350) Vs. Dexibell VIVO S3 73.($1799) Vs. Yamaha CP73 ($2100) The Casio PX 5 is 88 keys ($1000). I’ve played Privia pianos that had pretty great feeling keys, but not this one. I guess the Viscount Legend 70s compact or Crumar 17 are in the next tier with the Yamaha YC73 or Korg SV. Kawai MP11 is top tier. Nords are pricey… and I prefer electro for organs/EP but not AP (I still wish Kawai made a light 73 key stage)

StudioLogic now offers the Numa X in a weighted 73. Those Kawaii pianos mentioned are great - but no pitch or mod wheels if that is important to you. Casio S3000 has a knob you can use for pitch bend. Casio Previa has a nice feel for the price. I also like the PX5S, but that is 88 key. The Kurtz. Forte is a beast of a synthesis machine A portable 73 key is hard to find in your price range. Nord prices are high, and Electro has waterfall keys. Great organs tho. I use a StudioLogic SL 73 with an iPad as the sound source. Been using Neo-Soul keys.

Kurtz Forte 88. US$5k Kurtz Forte7 76 key is US$4K the Forte 88 SE is US$1699? Funny how much we pay for great internal sounds and then still use an external software Rhodes or Clavi! Since you mention 73/76 keys for compact space - do you like when manufacturers put. The pitch wheel up high, above the lowest octave keys? If a bottom board it can be a reach to the pitch bend. I like wheels but joystick or Nord stick… I guess you can get used to anything.,,, depends how often you do pitch bend. do you like the side insert pitch bend on the Vox? Thanks to all for your comments about the action on popular keyboards!

Thanks to all who posted about the feel of the Kawai MP keys.. I have an old Kawai MP 9000 - it still works great after many years of playing. Love the easy to use controls! The grand piano, electric piano, organ, and string sounds still work for me! Now that it's old - some keys make a bit more noise (clicking). I never noticed too much bounce on hammering a single key. I wish the old Keyboard mag was around to do a digital piano shootout. There are Korgs, Nords, Kurzweil, Roland, Casio, Yamaha, and Kawai stage pianos (no speakers). Not easy to actually demo these in person at a store. Keep posting your thoughts! Anyone using that Casio PX3000? What stage 73 key? has has the best piano feel, instruments/sounds and features?

Sounds are nice but you have to play on it and let us know about the action. Can we assume it"s great because of Fatar? Love to know how these stack up to similar price Previa P3000 or a kawai or Korg keybed!?

compare to Casio PX5S? $999. no speakers, dual bend/mod wheel, has midi jacks, drawbar sliders. it would be great to hear y"all"s impressions from playing keybeds on these weighted or semi-weighted boards - have u tried M-Audio 61 or hammer 88? the Previas have pretty good action. what"s best controller action for piano sounds?

Thanks for that comparison of the two Casio pianos. I agree with others that Kawai has best feel for playing AP, but Casio Previa is good. Must admit the specs on Previa PX 3000 are great for the price - but a small pitch wheel and only USB midi? The PX5S has the mod wheel next to the pitch bend... I like that better and I prefer no speakers on my "stage" piano - so I agree that for gigs the PX5S looks good! Definitely test drive them if you can - specs are one thing. feel and sounds and playability - you have to judge. Thanks for that post! Tripp

Thanks for that comparison of the two Casio pianos. I agree with others that Kawai has best feel for playing AP, but Casio Previa is good. Must admit the specs on Previa PX 3000 are great for the price - but a small pitch wheel and only USB midi? The PX5S has the mod wheel next to the pitch bend... I like that better and I prefer no speakers on my "stage" piano - so I agree that for gigs the PX5S looks good! Definitely test drive them if you can - specs are one thing. feel and sounds and playability - you have to judge. Thanks for that post! Tripp

Thanks! And did someone mention a USB Midi? I see in the review you can use Chordana. Have you tried to connect Casio PX-s3000 to other DAWs? Was it complicated (drivers to find/load), or simple? Thx!

Sort of a dumb question... I am guessing the internal speakers turn off when you plug into the headphones out? is there a way to disable the internal speakers, when you use external PA?

I agree with BenWaB3... if you are not going to lug it around... then the Kawai MP series have a great action.

The action and sounds on Casio PX-S3000 Digital Piano are nice for the price!. And it has a pitch mod wheel, expression pedal input, and many different sounds. Only USB (Not MIDI out). I compared the Roland RD-2000 and Yamaha 88key MOX series and those key beds seemed mushy/spongy and more tiring to play. I used to like Yamaha SX90 and Korg T1 for their weighted keys. Now I use a Kawai MP and a Nord electro. But for the price (about $800 US) the Casio Previa key bed seemed (to me) more Piano-like and expressive. Surprisingly good!

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