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#1866866 - 01/04/08 06:28 PM New Speakeasy MINI leslie!
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Check this out!!! http://www.roadbox3.com/

Speakeasy Flatpack leslie that fits in the back of any vehicle! I'll post a mini review soon as I get it.

250watts with a Speakeasy Platinum Preamp installed, and it'll fit in any car. Now on those long road trips I can carpool with the guitarist and STILL see out my windows!

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#1866877 - 01/04/08 06:54 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Boney Mounds]
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#1866883 - 01/04/08 07:17 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Joe MustScareYa]
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Now kanker has absolutely no excuse not to buy the XK3c.

\:\)

Seriously, how much? That is way cool.
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#1866892 - 01/04/08 08:14 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Jim Alfredson]
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Like $2800 with preamp installed.
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#1866903 - 01/04/08 08:57 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Boney Mounds]
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Ouch.
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#1866918 - 01/04/08 09:40 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Jim Alfredson]
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 Originally Posted By: B3-er
Ouch.
You were saying?
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#1866935 - 01/04/08 11:10 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: kanker.]
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When you consider that a Leslie 3300 is $2200 street, and this is about half the size, and has a Speakeasy Platinum Pre built in, it's actually a steal.
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#1866939 - 01/04/08 11:22 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Boney Mounds]
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Heh, for that price I'd rather haul the 147 I got for free... ;\)
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#1866944 - 01/04/08 11:37 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: kanker.]
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Yeah, but you're not hauling it now are ya. It gets back to what's more important, tone or the load in. This is the compromise, and a pretty good one at that.
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#1866951 - 01/05/08 01:23 AM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Boney Mounds]
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I think I'll be sticking with my 860 +speakeasy pre for gigs and 122 for home. I got all 3 pieces for not much more than that. I can then have the advantage of a lower rotor too.
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#1866996 - 01/05/08 06:33 AM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: King Julien]
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For $2800 one could have 2 of these:

http://www.tonewheelgeneral.com/pdf/LeslieGuitarModels.pdf

and enough left over for a nice weekend with one's SO.

Or a sub-woofer like the 2121 for a few $ more.


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#1867071 - 01/05/08 08:44 AM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: JMcS]
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Problem with the Gunits is they're voiced for guitar which has a much narrower bandwidth to reproduce, and even IF ok for the "keyboardist" would be unacceptable to the "Organist" who is kicking pedals or LH bass. The Speakeasy is tuned and ported for bass kickers. G37 is also 100 watts vs Speakeasy 250watts, and in one unit, is much heavier than the 2 pieces of Speakeasy. Size wise, they look the same.

I've seen the 3300 next to the RB3, and it's larger than the Rb3,but if I was to play one or 2 of the Gunits or a 3300, I'd have to go 3300.

Of course we're talking MDF construction in terms of the Leslie again, so as always, You get what you Pay for. But it is substantially cheaper.

It's like comparing an XK3 to a Vk1000 here. I'd rather pay for something I'd actually enjoy listening to. The Gunit is the wrong tool for the job.

What's interesting too is the guitarist listed didn't use Fender or other guitar amp makers' versions of leslies for their guitar, they actually use full-size leslies. Frampton is the only one that actually tours with one (still does) and it's a big old 147!

Which goes to show: You Don't Get Tone On A Diet.
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#1867074 - 01/05/08 08:48 AM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Boney Mounds]
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The 860 Speakeasy combo is pretty good compromise for hauling and retaining tone. A bit bass deficient, but definitely better than the Motion Sound stuff. I'll be interested to see if the FlatPack has the killer bass I've been told it has. I'll keep ya posted, should be late next week.

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#1867077 - 01/05/08 08:52 AM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Boney Mounds]
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Serioulsy, I've never paid more than $600 for a real Leslie. Yeah, the 3300 looks great but I cannot justify the price. My 122 that I use on the road has casters attached and its very easy to get it in and out of my minivan.

The Roadbox looks cool but that price is extreme, imo.
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#1867114 - 01/05/08 09:51 AM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: King Julien]
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Is that square exit horn new to this cab, or has Speakeasy been using it in other products? I'm curious as to it's sound, but as far as I'm concerned because of it's price this is a boutique product for rich touring pros with no van. I'm not rich but at least I've got a van.

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#1867121 - 01/05/08 10:06 AM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Bill H.]
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Speakeasy has been using that horn for a while now. I have it in my Dominator boxes. Actually sounds smoother. Kinda weird looking, but the minute I heard it, I dug it. It's also more balanced.

One of the reasons I started the search for smaller leslies is gas prices. I sold my van after it started to cost me $75 to fill it. Now I drive a Toyota Highlander so space and convenience are definitely factored in.

There's no argument here: Speakeasy stuff aint cheap. But again, in this particular unit, we're not just talking a leslie, we're talking a preamp too.
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#1867155 - 01/05/08 10:51 AM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Boney Mounds]
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 Originally Posted By: tonysounds
.....But again, in this particular unit, we're not just talking a leslie, we're talking a preamp too.

+1

Based on my newfound experiences with the Speakeasy preamp (AMA Combo), this may even be the more important contributing feature.
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#1867165 - 01/05/08 11:14 AM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Boney Mounds]
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 Originally Posted By: tonysounds
Yeah, but you're not hauling it now are ya.
;\)
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#1867166 - 01/05/08 11:15 AM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Moonglow]
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I'm planning on replacing my RB3 single cab with this new 2 piece system.

It is expensive, sure. But with my bad knees and creaks, it's a fantastic way to deal with stairs. My very first hurdle when it comes time to gig is bringing my stuff up out of the basement. Ow!
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#1867170 - 01/05/08 11:27 AM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: matted stump]
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Same here Moe, if I can't sell my RB3, it'll go into a rehearsal spot and stay there. The FlatPack for regular gigs, and the Dominator for the insanely loud and high profile gigs.
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#1867184 - 01/05/08 11:59 AM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Boney Mounds]
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Just some ruminating here relating to this product class..... I'm wondering if Speakeasy has ever considered developing a "shorty" leslie with a dual-rotor, like around the size of a Leslie 860, or even slightly smaller?
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#1867188 - 01/05/08 12:05 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Boney Mounds]
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B3-er said: Serioulsy, I've never paid more than $600 for a real Leslie
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I think you will have a pretty hard time finding a real Leslie for $600. The prices have skyrocketed in the past year. $1000 and up seems to be the going price...and many mint desirable models such as the 122 or 147 are selling for upwards of $2K.

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#1867201 - 01/05/08 12:50 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Moonglow]
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 Originally Posted By: Moonglow
Just some ruminating here relating to this product class..... I'm wondering if Speakeasy has ever considered developing a "shorty" leslie with a dual-rotor, like around the size of a Leslie 860, or even slightly smaller?


I thought they had made one last year...Tony may remember better than me or may have owned one. Seems like Steve told me about a "pancake" design he was trying, but I don't have any more info on it.

I have the RB3 and while I like it, I really don't use it enough. I've found it difficult to sell, since I really don't want to ship it.

The new 2-piece design is intriguing to me. I'll be curious to hear what Tony thinks about it.
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#1867204 - 01/05/08 12:54 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Moonglow]
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 Originally Posted By: Moonglow
Just some ruminating here relating to this product class..... I'm wondering if Speakeasy has ever considered developing a "shorty" leslie with a dual-rotor, like around the size of a Leslie 860, or even slightly smaller?


If you have what you think is a good idea, definitely let Steve know. He has pretty much built his products with a lot of feedback from pro players.

The trick is keeping the bass response when the speaker enclosure size shrinks down. Most of the shorty cabs with a bass rotor and horn seriously lack bass. Steve makes his cabs so that you can kick bass through every one of them. That's why the bass cab of this new shorty is ported like a subwoofer.
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#1867210 - 01/05/08 01:04 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: B3bluesman59]
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B3-er said: Serioulsy, I've never paid more than $600 for a real Leslie
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I think you will have a pretty hard time finding a real Leslie for $600. The prices have skyrocketed in the past year. $1000 and up seems to be the going price...and many mint desirable models such as the 122 or 147 are selling for upwards of $2K.
You just have to know where to look, and B3-er is one resourceful cat. Also, when you're a guy known to play the things the way he is, you run into folks willing to almost give them away because they just want to get rid of one...
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#1867260 - 01/05/08 02:53 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: kanker.]
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THe RB3 is his shorty; it's about the same size as an 860, and definitely smaller than the Leslie 3300. As Moe said, Steve is very critical of low end, and wants to ensure that whoever ends up with one of these is able to use it a full-on no extras needed leslie for kicking bass, pedal or LH. He tells me this mini will actually do more low end than my RB3 (which is plenty!).
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#1867271 - 01/05/08 03:09 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Boney Mounds]
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For those of us that don't kick pedals (probably a substantial segment), it would be interesting to explore the trade-off: reduced low end vs. dual roters.
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#1867281 - 01/05/08 03:33 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: Moonglow]
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I swapped out the original speaker in my 860 with a Lorantz (locally made) because it has better bass response. Now it doesn't sound too different to the 122.
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#1867282 - 01/05/08 03:34 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: King Julien]
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860 fits in the hatchback too.
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#1867609 - 01/06/08 12:55 PM Re: New Speakeasy MINI leslie! [Re: kanker.]
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I found this 'Pancake' Leslie on-line yesterday made by Dr. David Tarantolo in New Orleans. I must have a rotating low-end if I was ever going to think about going this route as an option instead of my stock 145 (w/Speakeasy classic pre) and I must say I like the way this one looks. Honestly I have not head the new Speakeasy box with the fixed 12" on the Low-end. All in this one are stock parts except for the 12" speaker and sized low-rotor. I'm pretty sure it's using Hamptone or Caribbean Controls motors because only 2 AC outlets are being utilized.




Dave Chesavage's Website . . .

I can't seem to find a Website for the good doctor but he is listed in various medical and musical references on the Web including his contact info. as the "Organ Doctor".

Dr. Dave the Organ Doctor's Reference . . .



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