Spoke with some university friends today trying to rehearse remotely. In addition to advancements being made with JamKazam (new version due out soon) they tell me SoundJack is doing a good job. The example below has both slow and fast tempo numbers and these two are hitting together surprisingly well. The example also shows live performance streaming making use of a second computer to take the burden off of the first.
There’s a video demonstration in the link above but I can’t insert it here.
I was feeling the latency - particularly when the female vocalist took a verse. Either that or her phrasing was really weird.
Yes, I’m under the impression that the second demo was over 5G.
Her phrasing was odd, but I don’t know if that was latency as much as just her. The internet is inherently slow and efforts to make live play quick enough to be effective and satisfying have been lacking. So any steps toward improving the tech are welcome... especially of we're going to be careful about sharing breathing room for some time yet. A silver lining, perhaps.
I am skeptical. This morning, the round-trip ping to a guitar player across town (7 mi) was 64-70 ms.
That’s not good for the music making. A bit more info. Are you plugged into Ethernet on both sides? And using a low latency audio interface on both sides?
This was a round-trip network delay test between source/destination WAN IPs. It was measured by my ASUS router. The minimum round-trip time was 63 ms. Usually, the one-way delay is taken to be half of that.
Ok, simultaneous play from North Carolina to Rhode Island. That’s pretty far, there is a lag it’s quite low, when they sing together more noticeable. Their server simply must prioritize low latency audio over video and maybe even over audio quality? - and since traffic is far less than Zoom or Skype or Facetime they can get better performance. Still needs both people to be plugged in with Ethernet to router and to have low latency audio interfaces on the host computers.
“ Their audio connection is through SoundJack, a free online audio service that has very low latency/lag. This makes it possible for Wendy and Eden to make music and respond to each other with minimal lag/latency. Most other online connectors have such noticeable lag that real-time collaboration is not possible.
They set up their SoundJack systems by carefully watching videos on the SoundJack site and with guidance from Dr. Ian Howell, their colleague in Boston. If you want to investigate these online options, his research is extremely helpful. https://www.ianhowellcountertenor.com...
If you're a musician, coach, or teacher looking for the fastest possible high-quality audio connection (and you are, because otherwise our performing and teaching options may continue to be severely limited by the pandemic), check out SoundJack. CleanFeed is another option and we've had some success with it as well. You can see our video experiment here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyF-p... InternetMIDI is another interesting option to get high-speed MIDI device connection in a music lesson. Eden has tested this successfully. Our friend and colleague David Sabella has more information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIsXV...
InternetMIDI: www.timewarptechnologies.com (both need to purchase the program and have MIDI devices connected) SoundJack: www.soundjack.eu (free but there is a learning curve; some tech skill and adjustments are mandatory; works best with fastest processors and routers) CleanFeed: www.cleanfeed.net (very easy to use but more noticeable lag; free and subscription versions are available)