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Re: Somewhat OT: Staying in or going out?
Winston Psmith #3035133 03/26/20 09:47 AM
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I do not know what rubbish you folks watch or rather are fed by way of News over there in the USA but according to UK News and the appeal that the Mayor of New York has posted you are still a good few weeks away from the peak of the virus pandemic.

We here in the UK are two weeks behind Italy and we are still about three weeks away from our peak.

It is not going to be business as usual in April.

Information on what precautions to have in place on a personal level are out there, yes they maybe from a different Country but they can still be valid for you.

It is up to you to protect your family and yourself.

Assuming everything is going to be OK is fraught with danger.

Contrary to what you may have been fed the virus may not produce mild symptoms, we have had a health 19 year old girl die from contracting coronavirus.

If you take my advice research up on precautions and go OTT on them.

Be safe.


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Re: Somewhat OT: Staying in or going out?
Winston Psmith #3035144 03/26/20 12:25 PM
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I believe things are relatively better in the US than people realize. I was on a pandemic task force 10-15 years ago. Things may sound bad on the news but the possibility of an Avian Flu crossover had us scared to shit. The protocols and plans in place were established and refined in 2008. There are medical resource shortages but ... things would have been a hell of a lot worse if 2008 had not happened. There was a huge awakening in the US in regards to business continuity management as a result of 9/11/01. Those imperatives carried over into pandemic preparedness. It could have been worse.


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Re: Somewhat OT: Staying in or going out?
Winston Psmith #3035252 03/26/20 09:11 PM
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Eventually the non-hoaders are going to turn on the hoarders, then it's going to get nasty. I think some people are shopping every day and it makes hard on those of us who just get what we need. It almost forces us to become them just to survive.


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Re: Somewhat OT: Staying in or going out?
Winston Psmith #3035260 03/26/20 09:49 PM
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So far, while the panic buying is still in evidence, PEOPLE haven’t gotten crazy here in D/FW.

IOW, while I’ve noticed things like dry pet food (?) and tomatoes (??) disappear, there haven’t been any skirmishes. Civility still rules.

In the meantime, we’re using our pantry and freezer judiciously, and supplementing our usual purchasing pattern with some “just in case” items, like a couple containers of shelf-stable almond milk.

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Re: Somewhat OT: Staying in or going out?
Winston Psmith #3035262 03/26/20 09:53 PM
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Here in Arizona most of the stores have recovered from the hoarders all except for paper products. We have enough because we hoard TP automatically, we buy it in packages of 24 rolls at a time as a matter of course, even before the panic, so when the panic hit we got a second pack just in case. So we quit buying it, except for the wife's mother, who cannot go shopping by herself anymore, we got her a 24 pack at 6:00 AM on Tuesday this week. There were at least a hundred seniors in line at the Walmart ahead of us, (it was a seniors only hour from 6AM to 7AM) but they were all hampered with shopping carts, we could get down the side isles to the paper products in time to score a 24 pack, but there was plenty that day so no one seemed to get short changed while we were there. We were out the door before 6:10 AM TP booty in hand.

Otherwise here in The Phoenix AZ area the food stores are well stocked, although Trader Joe's will only let a few folks in at a time with a limit on how much they can buy, so even though TJ's is my go to food store, I avoid it until they lift the restrictions. I shop Sprouts Market instead for all my organic produce and other items. Sprouts Farmers Market stays open without restrictions except limits on the purchase of some things. All in all our stores are catching up gradually with no real drastic shortages here yet.


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Re: Somewhat OT: Staying in or going out?
Winston Psmith #3035299 03/27/20 01:49 AM
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I went to the store today and the only thing in the entire paper aisle was 4 boxes of Kleenex. They did have noodles for the first time in two weeks. Zero hot dogs, zero sausages, very little butter, only a few bags of frozen veggies. I ordered TP last week since I gave up trying find any. It's coming from China so 3 to 5 weeks. Fortunately we did buy some before it disappeared. Food items being gone doesn't effect me because l never buy food from a super market, only local and farmer's market.


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Winston Psmith #3035370 03/27/20 05:01 PM
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Sprouts Farmers market is in the following states with numbers of stores after each state;

Alabama (3) Arizona (42) California (126) Colorado (32) Delaware (1) Florida (23) Georgia (16) Kansas (5) Louisiana (1) Maryland (5) Missouri (3) North Carolina (5) New Jersey (1) New Mexico (9) Nevada (13) Oklahoma (11) Pennsylvania (2) South Carolina (1) Tennessee (6) Texas (47) Utah (5) Virginia (1) Washington (4)


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Winston Psmith #3035372 03/27/20 05:13 PM
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Here in the suburbs of Detroit, it's kind of funny to see what items have been selling out. I went to a nearby Sam's Club, and while the obvious toilet paper, tissues, and paper towels were gone, they were also cleaned out of milk, eggs, and oddly enough, Bertoli's alfredo sauce. They had plenty of Classico tomato pasta sauce, but there was no pasta of any kind. Another store by my house was cleaned out of every kind of pasta except for lasagna. And that store had no loaves of bread available, and their meat inventory was quite depleted. Now, I can see wanting to buy up a lot of hand sanitizer and disinfectant, but come on, we are not going to run out of cows and chickens. And I heard that somebody tried unsuccessfully to return a big package of toilet paper at Costco for a refund. Sorry dude, but toilet paper is a UFO sale: U F***ing Own it! LOL!


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Re: Somewhat OT: Staying in or going out?
desertbluesman #3035410 03/27/20 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by desertbluesman
Sprouts Farmers market is in the following states with numbers of stores after each state;

Alabama (3) Arizona (42) California (126) Colorado (32) Delaware (1) Florida (23) Georgia (16) Kansas (5) Louisiana (1) Maryland (5) Missouri (3) North Carolina (5) New Jersey (1) New Mexico (9) Nevada (13) Oklahoma (11) Pennsylvania (2) South Carolina (1) Tennessee (6) Texas (47) Utah (5) Virginia (1) Washington (4)

I just got home from a trip to Sprouts. They were out of most of what I was looking for. Fine with produce, no pasta, all the bulk grains had been pre-bagged, & they were out of granola & rice. Thanks to the hoarders, who don't seem to know the virus doesn't stop food from growing, I couldn't get what I wanted.


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Re: Somewhat OT: Staying in or going out?
Winston Psmith #3035413 03/27/20 09:50 PM
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Our Sprouts is relatively well stocked but we are miles outside of Phoenix and the other little towns surrounding Phoenix like Peoria, Glendale, Mesa, Gilbert, Tempe, and the other outlying towns We are the farthest north and west in the Phoenix Metroplex in Surprise, so I guess there is a lot fewer people shopping here than Phoenix and LA.


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Re: Somewhat OT: Staying in or going out?
Winston Psmith #3035691 03/30/20 01:49 AM
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Everything we'd planned has gone by the wayside. Steve Hackett concert in Jacksonville, postponed, wedding in southern Georgia postponed until next spring and our trip to Savannah cancelled. As far as grocery shopping, here on the north Atlantic coast of Florida, it hasn't been bad. We have a local Publix that's very close to us, but they're not consistently stocked. We have another one farther away in the boonies which is about a half hour drive one way that is more consistently stocked. Paper products are the big problem. We're well stocked now. My wife does most of the shopping. I told her I'll give her a break and search for paper products tomorrow. In the meantime, I'm playing a lot and laying down a lot of tracks on my new DAW system which is working perfectly with my new laptop.

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Re: Somewhat OT: Staying in or going out?
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Suggestion from up here by D.C. - Dollar stores and little neighborhood bodegas hadn't all been cleared out of paper products, might be worth a side trip.

My wife and I went out in the pre-dawn hours yesterday, to see how the early-opening for Seniors looked at our two nearest grocery stores, to decide which one we wanted to try this morning. Food supplies are good, paper products are nil.

Right before everything shut down, I'd picked up a nice used Taylor 110CE, so I've been spending a lot of time in my backyard with it.

Quick addition: As of 8 o'clock tonight, Gov. Hogan of Maryland has issued what is essentially a Shelter-in-place order. If you're not shopping for groceries or medicine, or going to a medical appointment, stay home. I made my last trip to the store at 6 this morning, so I'm set for now.

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Re: Somewhat OT: Staying in or going out?
Winston Psmith #3035770 03/30/20 05:01 PM
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Don’t forget hardware stores carry some of that stuff, especially cleaning supplies.


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