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Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028557 02/11/20 11:07 PM
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RIP Lyle - such enormous talent and a humble human being...

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Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028570 02/12/20 01:04 AM
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Ohhh, that´s so sad !

He´s my generation, one of my all time favourites and was always an idol for me.

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I was there and it was a revelation !



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Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028580 02/12/20 03:00 AM
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Seems appropriate to post this version of "James" since the uploader chose to use a pic of Lyle. Love how Lyle's solo seems to flirt with quoting a bossa nova standard such as "Wave" or "Aguas de Marco" but not quite getting there.


Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028587 02/12/20 03:48 AM
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Pat Metheny and Lyle Mays's music was part of the soundtrack of my college years (As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls), and well beyond. An incredible pianist and synthesist with a unique and identifiable voice. So sad to hear.


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Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028603 02/12/20 11:15 AM
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Yeah very sad. What a deep and connected musician. I knew Lyle for a minute in the late 70's when we were both at North Texas. I was a trombone major just starting out on piano and took private lessons from him for a semester or a summer or something. A very kind soul even then. I didn't realize we were so close in age. Rip In Peace, Lyle.

Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028608 02/12/20 12:57 PM
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He really was a Genius, with a capital G. Aside from music, he also pursued interests in architecture and software development. Here he provides timestamp-to-timestamp commentary on his own TedX performance.

http://jazzonline.com/blogs/the-most-intriguing-performance-in-jazz-2011.html

"The first notes you hear are chosen by one of my apps that mapped the calculus equations that describe the motion of the double pendulum to an accompaniment part played by synths. I wanted to use nonlinear dynamics as a starting point to illustrate the deep connections between math and music and to make a point about what we call organic."

Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028650 02/12/20 06:53 PM
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I saw the Pat Metheny Group around 88 - 89 at the Orpheus Theather while I was at Berklee College Of Music in Boston.
The band came out marching on to the stage like a marching band. I believe Lyle was teaching in the area around this time. On of my friends was having a band rehearsal in a room at Berklee. The door to the room had a tiny window. During the rehearsal one guy in the band noticed a dude looking through that tiny window for a while. He said I wonder what that dude wants? My friend said don’t mind him that’s “only” my piano teacher Lyle Mays!
Never forgot that story. Obviously a down to earth guy as well as a brilliant virtuoso. No doubt. Pat Metheny just came out with a new album and the pianist is excellent but didn’t sound quite like Lyle. Seemed strange to me. Know I understand why Lyle wasn’t on this album. Incredible bummer.
Just found out about an album he recorded in 2016, The Ludwigsburg Concert (Naxos, 2016). Check it out. So moving! He will be greatly missed!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kEbzMwcF0GOY3SIAToGoyg-1H0KoDz-zQ

Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028694 02/12/20 10:21 PM
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When I was about 14 or 15 and just getting into improvised music, a couple of slightly older guys who I played with took me to see the Metheny Group - I think this would have been the American Garage tour. I didn't know anything about the band at that point, and from where we were sitting or standing, Lyle was set up with his back to us and I actually thought for most of the concert that he was a woman because of his long hair. I have to laugh at my younger self now - but, after the first minute or so it didn't matter who or what he was, the music was amazing, transcendental even, for me. I spent the rest of high school and college listening obsessively to everything they put out - I used to go to sleep listening to As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls, every night for a few years at least. Lyle's harmonic approach, and particularly his approach to synths and orchestration, were huge influences on me.

Near the end of college (which was in Cambridge, MA, near where Lyle was living at the time) I was walking past a hole-in-the-wall pizza joint one night near my dorm. I happened to look in and see this very familiar-looking guy playing a video game. I went in, and sure enough it was Lyle, playing Ms. Pac-Man! I was pretty shy but mustered up the courage to approach him (after he finished a level, of course.) He was as nice as could be, very generously bailed on his game and sat with me for a while, asked me questions about what I was studying, and seemed as down-to-earth and just plain human as everyone else has said. I think I asked him about studying with him which would have been a dream for me, but circumstances never quite aligned for it to happen - something I regret to this day.

Anyhow, it was a cool experience to meet one of my heroes like that, and something I will (obviously) never forget!

Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028719 02/13/20 01:55 AM
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I am a little bit curious as to what his health issue was, but perhaps it doesn't matter .

It was late 1977 or 78 when I heard the Pat Metheny Group when they opened for the Milestone All Stars ( Mc Coy Tyner, Sonny Rollins and Ron Carter ) in Portland.

They blew the headfliners off the stage that night . That's saying a lot based on the name recognition of the All Stars , but what made them stand out was their obvious TEAMWORK, and unique musical conception, which I give the original Pat Metheny Group a lot of credit for.

It was quite astonishing what the original Metheny Group had achieved in a relatively short amount of time.

So it doesn't seem like that long ago. There are many on this forum who are in the age range that Lyle Mays is in. All I can say is, take good care of yourself.

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RIP Lyle! "As Falls Wichita..." was my first exposure to Lyle, and his textures chords and vibe have influenced me from 1981 to this day.

He was never over-technical, concentrating more on taste and the perfection of understated improvisation, composition and orchestration.

For that I always aspired to achieve his sensibility with my own playing, although I never actually came close, but I enjoyed the effort, and still do.

It's hard to believe he is gone. I'll need to create a playlist of my favorites of his and keep it handy!

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Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: jeffnkrn] #3028770 02/13/20 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffnkrn
Just found out about an album he recorded in 2016, The Ludwigsburg Concert (Naxos, 2016). Check it out. So moving! He will be greatly missed!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kEbzMwcF0GOY3SIAToGoyg-1H0KoDz-zQ


It’s a stunning performance, everyone should check it out. But note that it’s from a concert Lyle played in 1993. Around 2015 someone brought it to his attention and they worked out a deal to release it. So glad they did!

Jerry

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You might enjoy the review of the recording I wrote for some magazine called Keyboard...

Review

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Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028791 02/13/20 12:48 PM
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RIP LM - I would have to say that Lyle's playing changed my musical life... I believe Lyle ( and Pat) are the same age
as I am .. so very relate-able to me on a number of intangible levels I guess ..... Caught him live once w/ PMG at Radio city years back..he was brilliant.. glad I did!


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Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028876 02/13/20 06:30 PM
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There was a discussion a couple of months ago on the forum about Lyle Mays. At that time, I had offered my opinion on his enormous talent. Hearing of his passing is sad news indeed, but I find amazing comfort in the realization that his music will be with us forever, and I am blessed to have been able to listen to it, experience it for the past 4 decades, feel it move me, and appreciate what it has always been, which (in my opinion) is some of the most emotional and expressive music I have ever heard.

Lyle Mays truly spoke through his music, and that music was able to convey a thought, a feeling, an emotion, more than most words could. When I listen to Lyle play, I hear the beauty of life, as life should be.

Although Lyle spoke through his music, someone uploaded an audio recording of a master class Lyle did at UNT, and we get to hear some of his insights on music.

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Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028904 02/13/20 09:56 PM
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Condolences to his family and friends.


�Ah, music," he said, wiping his eyes. "A magic beyond all we do here!�
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Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3028966 02/14/20 04:13 AM
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As I was searching for a recording of "It's for you" from AFWSFWF, I was reminded of this masterpiece, "Ozark".

The piano piece "Ozark".... It's no wonder that Pat, a couple of years earlier remarked that Lyle was the next Keith Jarrett


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smile

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Re: RIP Lyle Mays [Re: JohnH] #3029074 02/14/20 08:59 PM
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Man, I love this guys music and playing...my wife and I have such great memories of his shows with Pat.

Not sure if this was ever posted here but the included podcasts are great.

Lyle and Pat


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