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Re: "American Band" keyboards? [Re: EricBarker] #3003309 08/15/19 04:09 AM
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"Could"... but let's be honest, Pete Townsend is a crazy tech nerd who loved to screw around. Tod likely went in just wanting to get the job done and picked something.

Plus, routing an organ through an LFO is a LOT simpler than triggering an attack envelope (in this case), that would be nigh impossible unless his organ sent out VC triggers. The only thing I can think of is using a gate with a slow attack, which could have been very possible. But let's consider Occam's Razor: it's more likely that he chose an instrument that already had a slower attack, we already know he already had a MiniMoog at the studio.


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Re: "American Band" keyboards? [Re: Shamanczarek] #3003310 08/15/19 04:27 AM
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I wasn't a big fan of Grand Funk back in the day, don't really recall why, maybe thought they were cheesy rock or something. Haven't heard a GFR song in probably 30 years.

Just watched this. Damn was I wrong back then. This is amazingly awesome, they are very solid, very tight, their lead and background vocals are spot on, they put on a great show with very few frills, not even a drum riser. Farner does a move at 1:24 that's cool as shit.
Originally Posted by Shamanczarek
In this live performance from 1974 it's played mostly on B3 with some left-hand Clavinet. Only other Keyboard on stage is a Mellotron which is not used here. Doesn't sound exactly like the original recording but is full sounding and gets the job done. My hat is off to your drummer if he can nail that intro.


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Re: "American Band" keyboards? [Re: EricBarker] #3003318 08/15/19 05:25 AM
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I could be totally off in my timetable as I don't know when these types of synths came out, but there were some paraphonic divide down synths designed to mimic certain instruments - like the Moog Opus 3 and Korg Trident, He is playing multiple notes and not always just 5ths, and it was probably too early for polyphonic, so paraphonic would be my guess. Doesn't sound far off from the "organ" section of my Opus 3.


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Re: "American Band" keyboards? [Re: waygetter] #3003323 08/15/19 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by waygetter
I wasn't a big fan of Grand Funk back in the day, don't really recall why, maybe thought they were cheesy rock or something. Haven't heard a GFR song in probably 30 years.

Just watched this. Damn was I wrong back then. This is amazingly awesome, they are very solid, very tight, their lead and background vocals are spot on, they put on a great show with very few frills, not even a drum riser. Farner does a move at 1:24 that's cool as shit.
Originally Posted by Shamanczarek
In this live performance from 1974 it's played mostly on B3 with some left-hand Clavinet. Only other Keyboard on stage is a Mellotron which is not used here. Doesn't sound exactly like the original recording but is full sounding and gets the job done. My hat is off to your drummer if he can nail that intro.


A friend of mine from the record business half-jokingly called them the "band of the great unwashed". In their heyday they had zero critical acclaim, but teenage kids in the day loved them. They sold a ton of records (they kept Capitol Records afloat at a time when not much else was selling for them), sold out huge shows (Shea Stadium sellout in 1971), and started having quite a few hits on AM radio . And yes, Farner was a great singer and showman. AND, he was a pretty damn good Hammond player! Two B3's on stage for "Footstompin' Music"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUqS4O9nxv0

They were huge when I was a young teenager, and I loved them. I remember signing up for the Columbia Record Club in 1975, and one of the 12 albums (for $.01!) I chose was their second live album "Caught in the Act". Awesome band live, and by then they had Craig Frost in the band as their keyboard player. Both Brewer and Frost are or were in the Bob Seger's Silver Bullet Band after GF.


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Re: "American Band" keyboards? [Re: waygetter] #3003341 08/15/19 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by waygetter
I wasn't a big fan of Grand Funk back in the day, don't really recall why, maybe thought they were cheesy rock or something. ... Just watched this. Damn was I wrong back then. This is amazingly awesome, they are very solid, very tight, their lead and background vocals are spot on, they put on a great show with very few frills, not even a drum riser.

More cowbell!

Re: "American Band" keyboards? [Re: EricBarker] #3003380 08/15/19 05:06 PM
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When Grand Funk first became known I noticed Farner was playing a Messenger guitar, There was a Messenger dealer in my hometown in Oregon. I went to the store and they told me the company had gone out of business and all they had left was a Messenger Bass. At the time I was in a band with a guy who was from Astoria, Oregon where Messengers were built. He told me he knew someone there who had a Messenger for sale. We drove to Astoria and for $125 I scored a red Messenger with the built-in Fuzz which was the same model Mark Farner used except his was the Midnight Sunburst color. I still have the guitar and now regret that I didn't buy that Messenger Bass. This is my actual guitar in the photo:
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Re: "American Band" keyboards? [Re: EricBarker] #3003442 08/16/19 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by EricBarker
I'll probably go with Acoustic Piano or Wurli tonight

I was thinking AP would work great, kind of like the Doobies China Grove piano feel.


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Re: "American Band" keyboards? [Re: EricBarker] #3004304 08/21/19 04:49 AM
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I dunno...I mean granted I'm deaf in one ear, but I hear an organ not run through a leslie. I've always thought that was what it was.
Listening to the isolated keyboards, I still think that. I never hear the detail of the wurly before though, so that's pretty cool. I've always loved this song actually.


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