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Re: Yamaha MODX
engineerjoel #3026262 01/28/20 04:10 AM
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Thanks for the update David. I can see I have some experimenting to do. Glad to hear all is well with your gigging and rigging. lol



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Re: Yamaha MODX
engineerjoel #3029155 02/15/20 02:04 PM
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Just another piece of praise for the MODX. Last night I played a gig where we did Van Halen's Jump for the first time. Here's how it sounded on my MODX7 using default patches and zero tweaking at board level of effects etc:



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Re: Yamaha MODX
Dave Holloway #3029157 02/15/20 02:46 PM
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The MODX patch sounded great David, especially because it isn't modified. Too bad you weren't visible from the angle the video was shot at.


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Re: Yamaha MODX
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Originally Posted by Mark_OA
The MODX patch sounded great David, especially because it isn't modified. Too bad you weren't visible from the angle the video was shot at.


Thanks Mark though I don’t mind not being too visible smile


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Re: Yamaha MODX
engineerjoel #3029263 02/16/20 12:48 PM
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Have the pianos improved? Played one a while back and was not what I expected given Yamaha's rep.


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Re: Yamaha MODX
rickzjamm #3029302 02/16/20 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rickzjamm
Have the pianos improved? Played one a while back and was not what I expected given Yamaha's rep.

The pianos that ship with the MODX are the same as the ones that have always shipped with the MODX (and Montage), but Yamaha also has a free Bosendorfer sample you can download and install, which a lot of people seem to like a lot.


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Yep. Bosendorfer is my go to on the MODX.

Also, don’t rely on the factory settings.

Just google “ adjusting Yamaha MODX pianos” and you’ll find some really good info on where and how to deep dive to bring the best out of them pianos.


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Re: Yamaha MODX
EscapeRocks #3030654 02/26/20 10:52 PM
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Just bought the MODX8 yesterday and have been reworking some of the pianos. So far, I've created a few live sets. Will be digging in a little deeper when time allows. I'm digging it so far


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Re: Yamaha MODX
Dave Holloway #3031587 03/04/20 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by David Holloway
Originally Posted by Mark_OA
The MODX patch sounded great David, especially because it isn't modified. Too bad you weren't visible from the angle the video was shot at.


Thanks Mark though I don’t mind not being too visible smile


LOL we must be the same person because 1) I have a knack for not being in photos or videos, if there is a hanging chandelier it will be in front of my face and 2) I don't mind grin

I had a bit of a breakthrough with my Modx. I have not been digging the "analog" sounds in the thing...just sound kind of weedy. We added subdivisions from Rush since Neil Peart just passed away and our drummer loves Rush, fun for me too! I made a really surprisingly-good patch for this song from scratch using one part, "Analog Pad" (which consists of a few sawtooths as the elements). For one thing, most of the patches in the machine are too awash in reverb so reducing it helped to really hear what I was doing. I added a chorus (not too much) and currently have "Emphasis" for another effect and that seems to give it a bit of punch. I can always add more parts to try to thicken it up too, but along that road lies danger (layering often I find ends up making the patch worse unless you have specific things in mind.)

I still have a hankering for a knobby analog synth, which is part of my next question:

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I'm thinking of picking up a Novation Peak or Prophet, or maybe a Virus (I used to own one) grin Can splits and layers be set up midi-wise using the module and internal sounds? The trick here would be how to stop the module from responding on the split where you wanted the internal sound only (without having to program the module to play only in a range, which is possible I guess). In other words, can the modx be set up where one range is local-only, and another sends midi out?
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Modx plays only it's own electric piano up to C4, then only my new Prophet grin plays from C4 on up.

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2nd related split/external question:

With an ipad, so far I have just simply used any patch on the MODX and mute any parts if I want to only play the ipad. Haven't tried to gig with it yet. So: if playing ipad sounds, can these be part of splits and layers?

Example:
I have MODX piano playing on the left side, ipad b3 organ playing only on the right.

If that works, I might let my Electro go, use the Modx/ipad for organ, and get the Prophet keyboard.
And as a spanner in the works, I'm thinking about selling all of it and getting a Nord Stage razz...talk about analysis paralysis.


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Re: Yamaha MODX
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Originally Posted by EscapeRocks
Yep. Bosendorfer is my go to on the MODX.

Also, don’t rely on the factory settings.

Just google “ adjusting Yamaha MODX pianos” and you’ll find some really good info on where and how to deep dive to bring the best out of them pianos.


Interesting. I've just been using one of the defaults (the one with the pad volume on superknob) and it sounds nice in stereo (I normally monitor in Stereo). Mono, not as good but I'm used to that.

I'm going to check out what people are doing, as I'm pretty happy with the pianos but there's always room for improvement.

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Originally Posted by Stokely
can the modx be set up where one range is local-only, and another sends midi out?
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If playing ipad sounds, can these be part of splits and layers?

Yes to both. The function you're looking for is called Zone Master. Then each Performance can have its own combination of internal and external sounds, wplit/layered however you want.


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Originally Posted by AnotherScott
Originally Posted by Stokely
can the modx be set up where one range is local-only, and another sends midi out?
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If playing ipad sounds, can these be part of splits and layers?

Yes to both. The function you're looking for is called Zone Master. Then each Performance can have its own combination of internal and external sounds, wplit/layered however you want.


Thanks! There are a few things I don't like about the hardware of this synth, but it's really well-engineered software-wise. And even on the build side, it's hard to complain when I can pick up the modx7 by the back with one hand and put it up on the stand! Trade-offs...

Re: Yamaha MODX
engineerjoel #3047932 06/07/20 08:51 PM
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Looks like Yamaha has recently released another firmware upgrade for the MODX a few days ago. Version 2.50 has 32 new performances, Smart Morph feature for FM-X voices, adds DAW remote control & various Pattern Sequencer & playability improvements.

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The modx7 is the only working keyboard I have--my old Studiologic weighted controller finallly died, my pc361 has two keys out in bad places.

What's scary is that I'm getting pretty good at playing piano on it razz If and when I get another weighted keyboard it's going to be a rough transition back.

Aiming for a Kawai es110 when I get my Guitar center coupon again, if I ever do!

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engineerjoel #3047943 06/07/20 10:55 PM
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I miss Bert. They need to have him do one for MODX.



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engineerjoel #3047955 06/08/20 02:06 AM
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I’ve only scratched the surface, the Smart Morph is a thing of wonder. Select up to eight different FM patches and let the engine twist and mangel them together and now you’ve got a new patch with an X/Y pad on the touch screen that lets you slosh around and though the braided overlaps. Find sweet spots and save them to the 8 different Scenes. Pick two points and modulate between them, assign that floating point to the Super Knob, and move it with an expression pedal or even the Motion Sequencer...What A BEAST!

I’ve morphed a couple of DX EP’s and get these interesting FM ring-mods that can sweep with Super Knob Sequence. Then layered that on top of some lush, evolving pads and choirs. WOW! Did something similar with FM organs morphed and layered with a decent B3 emo...again with the weird and strange ring-mods. Pretty cool.


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