#990236 - 12/10/05 03:13 PM
Doorwall Glass for studio window glass.
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Jazzman
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Has anyone here used doorwall glass for studio windows in a control room. I just purchased 2 used doorwalls that are in excellent condition. I don't know if it is a good idea to take the frame off and expose the sealed glass or just put the whole window with casing in the opening. Then seal off the frame to the surround. I think it will be a lot cleaner. I will have two windows for the control room. One streaght in the control room and one on an angle (3deg.) facing down facing the live room.
I also purchased another set for the drum room too. A single thermal pane for the vocal room and a glass door for the entrance to the studio.
Any thoughts??
Jazzman 
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#990237 - 12/12/05 02:19 AM
Re: Doorwall Glass for studio window glass.
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Bill@Welcome Home Studios
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Originally posted by Jazzman: Has anyone here used doorwall glass for studio windows in a control room.
I also purchased another set for the drum room too. A single thermal pane for the vocal room and a glass door for the entrance to the studio.
Any thoughts??
Jazzman
I bought a used sliding glass door for my vocal booth window. I pulled the glass out of the aluminum frames, and had two 5/8" thick double pane sheets of glass, each with a rubber sealing gasket, each about 26 inches by about 76 inches. Turned on their sides, they made a great booth window. I tilted both sides to try to aim the reflected light from the ceiling lighting fixtures down to the floor rather than in my face. I used the included gaskets as a seal, but I augmented that with silicone calk all the way 'round, underneath the trim molding.
According to Alton Everest, 2 sheets of 1/4" glass have the same acoustic properties as 1 sheet of half inch glass. In my scenario, I have four pieces of plate glass in my window, so there is close to an inch of glass, plus three dead air spaces. I bought a smaller piece of half inch glass for another door, and that cost me over $100. The used sliders were about $25 for the whole set. I also bought a new slider set from a theater production... used for 6 weeks on stage, other than that, brand new, for $70. So it is cheaper to get sliders than custom cut extra thick glass.
I use double pane sliding glass doors to get into the machine room and another booth. The big issue that I found is 'ping' off of the glass. You need the talent to face the glass. Sideways, you get the ping.
Sliding glass doors are nice if your room/layout can support them; because they provide a very open feel and a lot of light into the booths, plus they open to the side rather than swinging out. That way it is easier to leave them open when not in use, just to air out the booth.
But broad expanses of glass can create a lot of problems in a small space.
In my old room we had a booth that the sliding glass door went into the side of the booth. It was a pain, and we ended up painting both sides of the glass with sand paint to weigh it down, leaving a small 'window' of clear glass for visibility. It worked quite well, but we lost the visibility, light, and airy feeling that we had originally tried to achieve by using a full sized glass door to start with.
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#990238 - 12/19/05 10:20 PM
Re: Doorwall Glass for studio window glass.
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Jazzman
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Thanks bill for the response and advice. Doorwall is the same as "Sliding Glass Doors". Just another term in the building industry.
Anyway the two sets of glass sliding doors that I purchased will be nice for the control room. One sliding glass door has a larger air gap between the panes than the other one. This is the one that I will use for the control room. It looks like about an inch space. The other set has about a 1/2" space. That set will be used in the drum room. I believe that most sliding glass doors have 3/16" glass panes in them.
I saw a photo of the control somewhere that had one pane of glass straight the other facing up. Another time I saw another detail of a control room window having one straight the other facing down. Isn't down the better way to stop light reflections? I'm confused about this. I plan on having the glass facing down in the live space the other one straight in the control room. Did I miss read your statement, or did you really set both panes of glass on an angle? Are they both facing down on each side of the room?
I think I will leave the windows in tact (glass frame still attached to the frame work)and seal with a flexible rubber all around each frame. I will have to figure out how I will set the one window on the angle though. In addition I plan on using some material that will absorb moisture between the two sets of glass. Once the glass is sealed off I don't need any moisture build up in the middle.
Thanks Bill for the input, much apreciated.
Jazzman
(george)
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#990239 - 12/20/05 11:53 AM
Re: Doorwall Glass for studio window glass.
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Bill@Welcome Home Studios
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Originally posted by Jazzman:
Did I miss read your statement, or did you really set both panes of glass on an angle? Are they both facing down on each side of the room?
(george)
"The Right Angle" is the trick, and angled down, fewer people are within that area. You'll have to look at your space and figure it out for yourself. My rooom has two rows of lights in the big room, and two rows in the larger booth. Tilting the glass so that standing people did not get reflections in their eyes and could see into the next room was the trick.
Bill
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