#989738 - 08/06/04 09:35 PM
78 RPM to CD transfers
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GY
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I got asked by a client’s wife to transfer some of her old 78s to CD. These are commercial releases from the 30's-40's (I think). I would charge her. She's not transferring these to duplicate/replicate, just so she can listen to them repeatedly. I got to thinking about the legal issues and thought I'd throw it out here. I want to do the right thing.
TNX
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#989739 - 08/08/04 08:44 AM
Re: 78 RPM to CD transfers
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NYC Drew
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You can charge a fee for transferring them. Be sure to stipulate that the transfer is to provide a copy of the original works for the use /utility of the client, and is not intended to facilitate additional distribution or copying.
Also be sure to find out if she wants the pops & clicks removed, so that you can calculate your time and efforts accordingly.
NYC Drew
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#989740 - 08/10/04 11:26 AM
Re: 78 RPM to CD transfers
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Bill@Welcome Home Studios
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Such transfers are hard work. I have done a bit of it, but not for years. Finding a good 78 player is critical, and a good assortment of 78 needles. I understand that bamboo needles are sometimes used to protect the recordings, but I've never tried it, myself.
But the best vinyl transfers are done using a table/arm that lays down a thin layer of distilled water or other chemical in front of the needle. This is done to reduce friction and surface noise.
Don't forget that some 78s are really recorded at 80. A tuning reference helps.
Many commerical 78s are already available on CD. Check with Recordramma in Pittsburgh. The owner has (literally) written the book on recorded music, and owns one of the largest archives of recorded music in the US.
Be prepared to spend many hours with NR, editing out clicks, pops, and unbelieveable surface noise.
If you are really concerned about legalities, you could contact the copyright holders. But I doubt that anyone cares, so long as this is a one-off for personal use.
Bill
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#989741 - 08/12/04 11:09 PM
Re: 78 RPM to CD transfers
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Jazzman
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I did the same thing with transfering Reel-to-Reel personal works of a client's brother to CDs. In this case this work was the clients to be transfered to another medium for listening pleasure.
I had a release form made up for another clients's project that I copied work from various production cassettes of the client to a CD for listening pleasure. He was the owner of the cassettes, and not to be resold for any reason.
As long as you have a release form that the client signs with your understanding of the intent, detailing what your studio did for the client, would be all you would need. Keep a copy in your file for that project.
You have no control from the time the client leaves your studio, however your copy of the understanding will cover your studio's needs for protection.
Jazzman 
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#989742 - 08/16/04 01:22 AM
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GY
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The idea of the client signing a release was a good one and something I hadn't even thought of. Thanks for the replies.
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#989743 - 10/12/04 10:39 AM
Re: 78 RPM to CD transfers
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teh dri
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Ive done plenty of it. Simply use a good turntable and good carts and run through a decent pre-amp.
I use the very common Technics 1210 dj turntable and some sexy Concorde carts/stylus. ive used different phono pre-amps but have found it doesnt matter too much...
the customer is rarely an experienced audiophile and simply wants their music for prosperity.
you americans are held hostage by RIAA waaaay too much if youd turn down a client over this. if you want to cover your ass then a disclaimer signed is fine, if you are a tin foil hat wearing nutjob, then get a statutory delcaration signed and witnessed that these records are their's and they are for home use only.
Jazzman has it sorted.
ps, to use the Technics turntables at 78 speed you depress both the 33 1/3 and 45 buttons at the same time. other brands such as Vestax have the 78 option on its own button.
pps, ive found that you should "persuade" the client that they are indeed happy with clicks and pops... its not worth your time to process a heap of old 78 recordings when the client balks at how much work is involved (ie cost to them).
take care of the major stuff sure but anything the DeClick plugins cant fix, and isnt fixable with a quick zoom in redraw, is too much fiddling for cost ratio IMHO
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