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#963610 - 06/15/01 03:29 AM Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
Chip McDonald
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..since it would be potentially handy from a collaborative resource point of view. Unless anyone happens to know any good singers that happens to be open for work....?



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#963611 - 06/15/01 11:05 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Good idea, Chip. I've heard the topic bandied about a bit.
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#963612 - 06/15/01 11:16 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Do Re Mi Fa So La Ti Do...

Mimimimimimimi...lalalalalalala...OK..I'm ready.

"I'M SINGIN' IN THE RAIN...JUST SINGIN' IN THE RAIN,...WHAT A GLORIOUS FEELING...TO BE HAPPY AGAIN..."

Did I pass the audition???
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#963613 - 06/15/01 11:47 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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A Vocalist's forum is a great idea!

And can we also please have a Trombone forum?, and just becase they look so cool - a Sousaphone forum!

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#963614 - 06/15/01 12:28 PM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Singers forum?
hmmmm... someone say sing....
someone say audition.....

Figerooooooooooe.....
Figerooooooooooe.....

hmmmm.... I'll have to find a much better sample of that
before the real auditions!!




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#963615 - 06/15/01 12:47 PM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Do Re Mi Fa So La Ti....DOH!

(Homer sings)

Dough...the stuff that buys me beer
Ray, the guy who sells me beer
Me, the guy who drinks my beer
Fa, the distance to my beer
So, I think I'll have a beer
La, la la la la la beer
Tea? No thanks, I'm drinking beer
That will bring me back to (finds pockets empty) DOH!

But seriously, I'd like to connect with more of the unfortunate folks who've gotten suckered in to being vocalists...
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#963616 - 06/15/01 01:05 PM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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You're gonna have a hard time finding a decent moderator.

He'll always be late. He won't be able to hear himself in the monitors. He'll skip rehearsal without notice. He'll complain about getting to the gig (even though the only piece of gear he'll have to schlep is his make up bag). And he'll make sure to catch a cold or have a huge fight with his significant other the day of the biggest gig of your life.

Trust me. I've been there. More than twice.

Now singing on his own stuff (most unfortunately for everyone involved),

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#963617 - 06/15/01 01:23 PM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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The search for a moderator or sponsor for a vocalist's forum is ongoing. We had one very promising possibility, but it hasn't happened yet. We're working on it, though.
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#963618 - 06/15/01 01:43 PM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Well...I don't think anyone less than Babs would do...hee...hee..hee!
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#963619 - 06/16/01 09:49 PM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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I don't know... Singers aren't the most technical people. The mouse may be a big hurdle for some of them. They'll probably hold it up to their mouths and say, "Testing, one, two..."
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#963620 - 06/17/01 03:54 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Quote:
Originally posted by miroslav:
Do Re Mi Fa So La Ti Do...

Mimimimimimimi...lalalalalalala...OK..I'm ready.

"I'M SINGIN' IN THE RAIN...JUST SINGIN' IN THE RAIN,...WHAT A GLORIOUS FEELING...TO BE HAPPY AGAIN..."

Did I pass the audition???


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#963621 - 06/17/01 09:24 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
Philip O'Keefe
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Quote:
Originally posted by Anderton:
The search for a moderator or sponsor for a vocalist's forum is ongoing. We had one very promising possibility, but it hasn't happened yet. We're working on it, though.


Craig:

How about "two for one"? My offer to help with the songwriting forum is still open (I have not heard any new news from Robert for a while - last I heard via email you were all still working on it and I was being considered to help) and I might be able to talk my wife into helping out with the singer's forum. Qualifications? Former RCA artist, killer voice, moderate amount of classical voice instruction, has taught a bit privately, computer literate...

I can point you to a MP3 of her singing if you want...

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#963622 - 06/17/01 01:35 PM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Quote:
Originally posted by pokeefe777@msn.com:

How about "two for one"? My offer to help with the songwriting forum is still open (I have not heard any new news from Robert for a while - last I heard via email you were all still working on it and I was being considered to help) and I might be able to talk my wife into helping out with the singer's forum. Qualifications? Former RCA artist, killer voice, moderate amount of classical voice instruction, has taught a bit privately, computer literate...


I don't know, Phil... I see things getting a little tense at your place with the two of you vying for computer time...

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#963623 - 06/18/01 01:36 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Couldn't we just call it the "autotune" forum?

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#963624 - 06/18/01 03:13 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Originally posted by guitplayer:
Couldn't we just call it the "autotune" forum?


Sssshhhhhhhh! Never tell a singer that you've Autotuned them!!

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#963625 - 06/18/01 09:51 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
Philip O'Keefe
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Antares Autotune:

Great singers don't really need it.

Singers who only think they're great need it but would be offended if you told them.

Novices who know they have intonation problems are only too happy for any help they can get. Somehow that makes them wiser than the people in the second group...

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#963626 - 07/18/01 11:22 PM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Any news on a singer's forum? The responses to my thread "improving as a
singer" have been most helpful. Not to sound silly... what do you guys
think about using Autotune as a training device? For example, if a song has
a high note a half step beyond the present ability of a singer, that singer could practice to their "autotuned" voice as that would approximate their individual tone and give them an auditory guide to follow.

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#963627 - 07/19/01 12:30 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Autotune:

Is not as easy as some think. Personally I find the concept brilliant and I can sing. ANYTHING overused is a bummer, but auto tune cannot make you sound good if you are a crappy singer, You have to have relative pitch and intonation. I hear people just 'RAILING' it over and over and I sincerely see your point. If you are a good singer or even a great singer, auto tune works best. If it is used on 1 or 2 passages in the studio or to help a session get through a tough lull, that is highly acceptable. We use flange, chorus, echo, reverb, doubling, cut and paste in the same fashion. We 'fly in' choruses and we quantize drum machines. There is absolutley no difference. It has gotten out of control no doubt, but it is what it is, an Effect. Antares is a DSP, just like anything. Overused ANY effect loses its effect.

Chessparov, stay away from autotune while you prctice singing, it will give you a false sense of accomplishment.

Cheers.

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#963628 - 07/19/01 02:20 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Quote:
Originally posted by spigots:
You're gonna have a hard time finding a decent moderator.

He'll always be late. He won't be able to hear himself in the monitors. He'll skip rehearsal without notice. He'll complain about getting to the gig (even though the only piece of gear he'll have to schlep is his make up bag). And he'll make sure to catch a cold or have a huge fight with his significant other the day of the biggest gig of your life.

Trust me. I've been there. More than twice.


That is funny as hell.....been there done that.

Now singing on his own stuff (most unfortunately for everyone involved),

Frank

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#963629 - 07/19/01 03:17 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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LOL
I was in the main page looking at the thread topics and saw...
"how about a singers forum"
and underneath
"near death experiences"

ahahahahhahahhaha

I guess you had to be there.

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#963630 - 07/19/01 04:24 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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I'm still expecting that forum to open, leaded by Chip... then I could visit him and start a flame war...

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#963631 - 07/19/01 11:25 AM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Man, those singer stereotypes are everywhere....we all have our "singer" stories. But it's great when you hook up with somebody that's a team player, and if they are a musician as well...BONUS! Imagine the topics in a singer's forum though: Gargling before performances? Harmonize or not to Harmonize? Choosing the right microphone?
I'm being silly of course.....seriously, it's a good idea. I sing as well, specialize in singing harmony....my fave.
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#963632 - 07/19/01 09:21 PM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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And let's remember to add "dealing with groupies" to possible thread topics
in a singer's forum! It was a bit amusing when I was taking lessons from a
(great)voice teacher who taught both "pop" and "opera". Most of the "pop"
students thought the classical/opera students were snobby about their
ability, and the "opera" camp, though a little more open-minded, tended to
isolate themselves with classical music. If there ever is a singer's forum,
the best type of moderator would be someone reasonably familiar with both
pop and classical music/technique IMHO.

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#963633 - 07/19/01 09:45 PM Re: Ok, then... How about a singers forum?
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Anyhow, I sure could use a few pointers as far as singing goes. And if I learn as much as I do here and in other forums about music recording and producing then I say it's definitely worth it.

Emile

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