#883066 - 04/25/06 01:34 PM
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spiritfolio10/2
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hey im nick im moving and setting up a pub.
i no where everything goes but the one thing thats making me think is can i have mics in and then a speker out from a spirit folio mixer or do i need a powerd amp. im hoping i dont but i need help thanx.
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#883067 - 04/25/06 08:12 PM
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Hey Nick,
Sorry, but unless the speakers have built-in power amps, you'll have to buy a seperate unit. The Folio doesn't have a power amp built in.
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#883068 - 04/26/06 07:35 AM
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thanx paul so what would you say would be the best and cheapest to buy
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#883069 - 04/26/06 09:34 AM
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Give us some clues.
* Size of pub, or capacity.
* Make and specs(power, ohms)of each speaker.
* Does it have to be stereo.
* Loud/soft music.
* Number of mics.
* What's your maximum budget.
* Used amp OK, or new.
* Is there a music store near you that carries these units. If so, what brands do they have?
The more you can tell us the better. There are a lot of choices, so narrow down the field. You might look at something like this if money is an issue.
http://www.behringer.com/A500/index.cfm?lang=ENG
You can get the GB price right on that page. That's about the cheapest price out there.
Best, Paul
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#883070 - 04/26/06 11:45 AM
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pub size will be small
make is soundcraft spirit folio 10/2
+48v phantom?
will be used for karaoke singing and genaral music.
will have 4 mics at the most.
music will be at a modorit level
max budget 200.00 GBP that will be for everything needed (mixing desk i have and one mic) used is fine i need all the help i can get so thanx
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#883072 - 04/26/06 01:00 PM
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i have just under a year to get this up and running i no it seems long but im always busy what is the difference to active and passive also what dose the phantom do on my mixer
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#883073 - 04/26/06 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by spiritfolio10/2:
i have just under a year to get this up and running i no it seems long but im always busy what is the difference to active and passive also what dose the phantom do on my mixer
Great. No rush! Active and passive merely means whether the speaker has it's own power amp inside the encloser(active) or needs a seperate power amp between the mixer and the speaker(passive). Same for mixers; active(has amp power) and passive(no amp power). Phantom power is the DC voltage that some mics need to run. Depending on the mic, you won't need it. Leave it off. It's for driving mics, NOT speakers.
To get an idea of the used prices on amps, follow eBay listings under 'Buy' > 'Musical Instruments' > 'brand name + amp'. Here's what I'd look for if it was me. BTW, this is an excellent deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7409042718
Best, Paul
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#883074 - 04/26/06 03:13 PM
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thanx so am i right in thinking if i get some spekers that are powerd and are active i can have a mic to mix to speker set up
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#883075 - 04/26/06 07:41 PM
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Right. The only problem with active speakers is one of breakdowns and weight. If an internal speaker amp blows out, you loose the whole unit; amp AND speaker. Same if a speaker blows, you loose the use of the internal amp. However if you use a seperate, external amp and it blows, that's real easy to replace, and you still have your passive speakers ready to go.
That's the trade-off for using active speakers; a little easier to transport and setup, but a problem if something breaks. Also, if you get the active type and it's not powerful enough, what do you do(?)!! With the external setup, just replace the power amp with a bigger one.
IMO, the price differential between active and passive setups does not really favor either setup. As long as you have some time, get out and check what the competition is using. Also, I'd figure on spending a little more than 200 pounds. It's worth it to buy quality stuff if you can.
If you're going for a seperate amp and speaker setup, I'd suggest Bose speakers and Crown power.
Paul
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