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#881508 - 03/22/00 09:52 PM First Gig
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Hey, all. I'm about a month-and-a-half away from my first gig and in need of some advice. Here's what we're looking at: rather large room with a PA system. Separate mixer and power amp. The mixer we have to work with is a "12-track" (it has eight real tracks, all of which have only 1/4" high-Z inputs and the last four all have left/right jacks with the left working for mono to fill in the rest of the "tracks"). We have a couple Radio Shack mics and an SM-48 Beta. We're gonna have two guitarists, a bassist, and a 5-piece drumset with roto-toms, as well as we're gonna have one vocalist. I don't have any experience playing live, so I'm trying to figure out how this will all work. What are the best mics for the guitars and bass? Should we just D/I the bass? How many mics are we gonna need for the drums? What kind of mics are we gonna need for the drums? How will all this work in relation to the mixer? Would we be best off buying a bunch of low-Z mics now and getting converters or can we get away with all high-Z's? I would be much appreciative of any help anyone can offer. Thanks
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#881509 - 04/08/00 02:12 AM Re: First Gig
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Hey man... the first gig's always a bitch. Here's my suggestion: If you're indoors, you don't need to mic anything. You can DI the bass if you really feel it's going to get lost in the mix. Have someone you trust test out the sound qualities at different points in the back of the room while you guys soundcheck and then add the vocals through the PA. The levels should be set a little louder than what you want your show level to be to accomodate the people when they get there. GOOD LUCK
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#881510 - 05/04/00 12:19 PM Re: First Gig
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Consider hiring a sound engineer. You will have a lot less stress and you can pick his brains and see how everything works together.
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#881511 - 05/10/00 08:04 AM Re: First Gig
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I would go with a di for the bass just to get the top end of it mic the vox and kik drum(really just for the top end) if you cant mic the kik drum tape a pennie to the beater of the kik from the inside of the drum and that will add some top end.hope this helps.
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#881512 - 05/29/00 01:27 PM Re: First Gig
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As someone said earlier hier a sound engineer and he'll tell you pretty much everything you will need to get by. To me when I play live the bass drum is never heard as with the snare. Definately mic those up, but keep the mics away from the cymbols because they're loud as a bitch already. Definately go DI with the bass or most likely the bass will get lost in the sound. Micing guitarists (I myself am a guitarist) is essential, turn the amps on the stage down and let the mixer do the work. One last thing, DON'T FORGET MONITORS, WITHOUT MONITORS LIFE IS A BITCH!!!!
Good Luck!
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#881513 - 07/04/00 07:16 PM Re: First Gig
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It sounds like you guys really should hire a soundman. If you really want to do it yourself, I recommend upgrading your mixer, and buying new LO-Z mics. Something from Shure, EV, AKG, or Sennheiser. Samson, Yamaha, Mackie, and Allen-Heath make mixers(in order of increasing quality and price) You should not buy Hi-Z mics, since as you upgrade gear, you'll never use them again. Hell, make it diplomatic, everyone buy the mic's he needs, and chip in for the mixer!
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#881514 - 08/21/00 11:21 AM Re: First Gig
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I agree with the previous post, except one thing ... and I speak from experience ... unless the bandmates you currently have are immediate family, I suggest going it alone on all equipment purchases. When things fall apart, and they usually do, what happens to the equipment everyone invested in? Who keeps it? Who gets reimbursed for their investment? It can get really messy, and downright ugly if and when things need to be parted out during the parting of ways.
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