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#881489 - 02/23/00 03:41 PM Recording
StrungOutHero
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I am looking into buying a digital recorder
either the Korg D-16 or rolands vs-1680
if any one out there has either one drop me
a line on any draw backs you've encountered
if any,

Thanks

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#881490 - 05/23/00 05:07 PM Re: Recording
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I don't know what the Korg is like, but my friend has the Roland and we've recorded on it on numerous occasions. It works great and is easy to use. And with the effects expansion it could go as a professionally recorded song.
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#881491 - 05/23/00 09:37 PM Re: Recording
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I have three studios all using the Roland Vs recorders...easy to plug & play {especially with the newest manual!} Back-up to Cd is very quick and affordable...(most)internal effects are very usable>>>after a little learning curve i.e. blend of the dry/mix, etc. I only wish more "mastering" houses would accept the direct files...I for one will never return to tape/Adat/etc. Instead of a client paying for expensive tape and the time added-up for simple tape transports...the studio now pockets the cash.
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#881492 - 06/08/00 11:29 PM Re: Recording
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I third the recommendation of the Roland 1680! I love mine; such a killer tool and it is very stable. Sure the learning curve is a little steep, but you will get through it fine. The only reservation I had before getting it was of the audio compression used (without compression it is only 8 tracks). I listened intensively to tracks recorded on it and on an ADAT XT-20, and a Tascam DA78 (24 bit). I could hardly hear the difference! There is a slight *something* that I cannot put my finger on, but it passed my test (and I was very skeptical going in). My advice, record in Multitrack Pro mode (the best compression setting), the sound is very nice. For sheer power and portability it is the way to go. I don't think that you will be disappointed, and no Roland didn't pay me for this endorsement!

Happy VS-ing,

Rich T.

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#881493 - 06/12/00 09:41 PM Re: Recording
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Are digital recorders practical for live gigs? I've been using a 4-track cassette deck with decent results. One day I'd like to go full simultaneous 8-track digital but I don't wanna haul a PC or a 20gig HD rig until it becomes a low-maint technology. perhaps it is already there and I just don't know it.
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#881494 - 06/15/00 12:20 AM Re: Recording
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The Roland VS 1680 ( and now the 1880) will record 8 tracks simultaneously and play back 16! The only issue is storage; I have an 18GB external drive for mine, and I back up to the Roland VS CD burner. It sounds great and once you get past the learning curve, you will be able to use it in all the places that your 4-track currently occupies. Check it out (or the Korg unit also). Hope that this helps!

-Rich T.

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#881495 - 08/13/00 10:46 PM Re: Recording
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Just a few small comments about the Roland virtual recorder.
1) Keep a backup of EVERYTHING you record...my old band lost 4-5 disks through normal use over a 6 month period
2) Don't record a long song(+15 min) or string a bunch of songs together....it tends to crash

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#881496 - 08/15/00 06:29 PM Re: Recording
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>2) Don't record a long song(+15 min) or >string a bunch of songs together....it tends >to crash

I want to record an entire gig. That's 4 x 45 mins. I must be able to hit "record" and let it run. I can't babysit it while I'm playing bass and singing, hence my original question "is digital practical for recording gigs?". It sounds like you're saying it's not.

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#881497 - 08/15/00 10:06 PM Re: Recording
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eddieray, The whole issue is storage. If you really need to record your gigs, a tape machine might be the best option for you. The hard disk recorders are more meant to be studio units and as such they are not really equipped for hugh amounts of storage. Whereas an ADAT with a bunch of tapes is ready to rock! I think that it all depends on your usage for the gear. For the cost of the Roland, you could buy two used Black Face ADATs and simply switch the other one to record when the first tape runs out. Let us know what you decide.

-Richt

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