#780412 - 09/12/99 07:03 PM
Better gigs demand video?
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Keith Moore
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In the latest issue of Gig, Cheryl Evans talks about how booking agents and club owners are becoming more interested in videos as part of a promotional package instead of CDs. I haven't heard much about this approach, so I'm curious about how to prepare a suitable video for promotion. Anyone done it? What kind of footage should you include? Who do you look up for assistance in making one? All info appreciated.
Keith
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#780413 - 09/24/99 03:21 PM
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twotonbass
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Regional agents we have discussed doing business with are looking for a spark in a video, just like an audio recording. Something they can sell, or does thier selling for them rather. We are currently working on a vid with the assistance of some media students at our local comm. college. We are looking to achieve pro results on a budget of about 1-2K.
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#780414 - 09/28/99 05:08 PM
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Drumzilla_dup1
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Kieth:
Making a useable promotional video requires overcoming two major problems right off the bat. First, you need to make sure that the audio is recorded via a mixer and effects, and NOT the rinky dink little mic on the video camera, and that the audio is synchronized with the video. Second, you really should use multiple cameras, and THEY need to be synchronized with each other for editing purposes. It's nearly impossible to get a decent promo video letting one of your buddies run around with just a camcorder.
My band hired a guy to shoot a show where we opened up for Edgar Winter. He placed one camera back at the FOH board and pulled audio from there. He also hand carried another camera, getting all kinds of cool, crazy shots of the band & crowd. Both videos & the audio were SMPTE time coded, and the final product was about 9 minutes of nicely edited, excellent sounding video. The whole process cost us about $750 start to finish.
The bad news is that it costs more to do it right. The good news is that the final product can really help you get the better paying gigs, and that'll recoup the costs very quickly and then continue to make you money long after.
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#780415 - 01/09/00 02:38 AM
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ArinCrumley
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I'm a video editor and I can tell you the right way to do this for as little money as possible is hire a cheap recording studio that is willing to take there A-Dats out of the studio and show up early to the show to patch them into the house mixer. This will allow each track going through house mixer to be recorded individually and mixed later. To cut costs find the cheapest most unexpirenced recording people that are used to just recording local bands demos and the school choirs, all they have to do is hit record and make sure levels don't peak, it's not hard. Pay them between 30 and 50 an hour. Then get two cameras on good tripods with experienced camera people and one guy on foot. You can find these people in a community college video class, interns at a T.V. station or if your cable company has a public access channel go to the public access station and put a note on the bulleton board saying you'll pay camera people 10 dollars an hour. Usually people at community colleges or public access station have access to equipment. Then the night of the gig tell the camera men to not stop recording the entire performance. Then tell the front man to clap into the microphone before each song and tell all of the camera man to be on him at the end of each song. This is kind of acward but a good front man knows how to make it into a joke or at least not look stupid. That clap can be used to sync everything up in editing. Then watch the footage and decide which 3 songs look the best and were performed the best. Then go back to the guys who record the audio on A-Dat and either have them mix the three songs you choose from the video or take the A-Dat decks to a mixing studio and mix it there. When mixing the audio bring in a T.V. if the studio doesn't have one and monitor the sound through the speaker of the T.V. Then the final step is send a cd of the three mixed songs and all of the video footage to someone like me who can edit it together. In deciding on a person to edit definetly choose somebody who is a musician. I've seen music videos edited by non musicians and they suck because the editor had no rythim. Well, for more info feel free to contact me. And FYI my editing rates are 30 dollars an hour and I edit about 1 minute of video playing time per hour of editing time. I wouldn't recomend paying more then 60 dollars per hour for editing or less then 20. I also wouldn't recomend paying more then 25 dollars an hour for camera men unless they have the Broadcast News type looking set up then I wouldn't pay them more then 100 dollars an hour. Arin http://www.mp3.com/metagalaxxy
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#780416 - 04/21/00 07:06 PM
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WE ARE A BAND LOOKING FOR GIGS, AND IF YOU CAN HELP THAT WOULD BE KIND OF YOU. MY EMAI; IS SWERVE@STRATO.NET--GOTO BANDS IN THE SOUTH AND CHECK THE MESSAGE I LEFT. ALSO, CHECK MY PROFILE. Originally posted by twotonbass: Regional agents we have discussed doing business with are looking for a spark in a video, just like an audio recording. Something they can sell, or does thier selling for them rather. We are currently working on a vid with the assistance of some media students at our local comm. college. We are looking to achieve pro results on a budget of about 1-2K.
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