#780355 - 06/17/05 12:24 PM
Who uses a china here???
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deathdrummer
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Well I don't have one because I've played one, and I don't have any kind of use for one, does anybody know what (besides that it's for effects) a china would be useful for???
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#780356 - 06/17/05 12:49 PM
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That seems strange considering your user name. 
I like a china in the context of blast/death type metal. I prefer the sound of a smaller one (like a 12"), which sounds about like a metal trash can lid.
Great way to enter a blastbeat. I think they just cut, which is what you need when you are trying to add accents to 2000 watts of screaming guitars and some guy belching like he's trying to take a shit...all of this taking place at about 220bbm.
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#780357 - 06/17/05 12:52 PM
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The last kit I had set up was not conventional in the cymbal sense.
14" HH's, 18"crash/ride (taped and muffled for maximum ping), 3 splashes, and a china. For some reason I tend to prefer cymbals with a sharp attack and short sustain.
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#780359 - 06/19/05 10:41 AM
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I have a wonderful, wonderful old china sizzle that I got off ebay for like $20. Man it's cool.
It's maybe 10-12"- little thing. A short, trashy crash with some bite.
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#780360 - 06/19/05 11:36 PM
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China cymbals were big in fusion/jazz 25 years ago. Billy Cobham used one. I bought mine over 25 years ago. It is 20" and cost me over $300 back then. It is VERY LOUD.
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#780361 - 06/20/05 03:10 AM
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i use an 18 sabian aax china and is great when played with just a snare as has a very fast attack
also have 18 inch AAX Metal crash 19 inch AAX Metal crash 14 inch AAx metal hats 8 inch AAX splash and a 20 inch Zildjian Z series rock ride,
sabian don't make a ride with a large enough bell so i prefer this more expensive option and have had the ride for 11 years!!
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#780362 - 06/20/05 06:49 AM
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I have two: a Zildjian 16" that I paid about 100 bucks for at least 15 years ago after I saw Charlie Watts using one and a cheapo 10" Wuhan that I got from Guitar Center for 10-15 bucks a couple of years ago. They're not appropriate on every song, but I love 'em and so did my old bassist.
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#780363 - 06/20/05 03:09 PM
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I might get one now...
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#780364 - 06/20/05 09:40 PM
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I've got a 12" Wuhan China that I bought for $20. It gets used a lot, almost as much as my 16" Paiste Crash. You can get a lot of good sounds out of a good china cymbal. I'd recommend trying out a lot of them, they all sound a bit different.
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#780365 - 06/21/05 01:02 AM
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i have a 22" zil.. dont make them anymore.. the thing beastly magicial. kinda like my 24" zil ride. i use a 18" zil remix ride now but i love the differnt colors.
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#780366 - 06/21/05 10:46 AM
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Blue Strat, i will take your advice thank you...
EricRIM, do you mean they stop making chinas because i havent seen any by Zil for a long long time...
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#780367 - 06/21/05 12:06 PM
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If you get one and you are a hard hitter, make sure you play it with the flair down. They are real easy to crack.
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#780368 - 06/21/05 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by deathdrummer:
Blue Strat, i will take your advice thank you...
EricRIM, do you mean they stop making chinas because i havent seen any by Zil for a long long time...
http://www.zildjian.com/en-US/products/default.ad2?catalogID=1013&typeID=13
just my beast of a china is no longer around... i like small ones aswell fun fast attack stabs..
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#780369 - 06/22/05 06:52 PM
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oh ok, and thanks to the stranger
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#780372 - 07/10/05 10:57 PM
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I actuall have an 18" china, 16" wuhan, and a 10" wuhan. The 18" wuhan was too sloppy for me. I like a quick attack. On the 18" china cymbal, I like using it with the edges down. I always use all parts of the cymbal in Jazz. You can get many effects from one cymbal.
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#780373 - 07/21/05 12:03 PM
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I own a 20", 18" 16" & 14" Wuhan. I like Wuhan because they sound like a China should (trashy)and they are extremely cost effective.
I mostly use the 20" or the 14". Obviously they are used mostly for a specific accent, however I find playing a ride pattern on a China cymbal can really driver a song.
I play mostly bebop or fusion, but I also get a fair amount of calls for "classic rock gigs" (I guess cause I'm old). I find places to use a China on many songs - but like anything, one must use "good taste".
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#780374 - 07/22/05 12:07 AM
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I just recently added my 12" Wuhan back into my kit at the request of my bass player. I'm diggin' it. 
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