#780097 - 05/02/05 10:55 AM
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Last night I ordered some new heads and I was in a hurry and inpatient. I ordered the Remo ambassador coated for my snare batter and think I might have made a mistake. Somebody please tell me that this head will sound fine.
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#780098 - 05/02/05 11:02 AM
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ihategarybettman
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I prefer the Emperor, but the Ambassador will sound fine. The Ambassador is thinner than the E, so it will generally be a little ringier and more high pitched, plus it won't wear as well in the long run, but it's still a fine head.
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#780099 - 05/02/05 11:07 AM
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Well that makes me feel better. I'm still thinking about changing my order to the Emperor CS or Powerstroke. I'm just so ignorant to Remo products.
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#780100 - 05/02/05 11:24 AM
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If your able to change it, I'd go with the Powerstroke 3.
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#780101 - 05/02/05 11:48 AM
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I love Ambassadors for my snare drum.
If all you're doing is thumping hard rock, go for an Emperor or Powerstroke. But if you ever wanna do any music that requires sensitivity (read: jazz), the Ambassador is a far better choice - and it will still work for the heaviest rock.
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#780102 - 05/02/05 11:52 AM
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Thanks for the replies! I think I'm gonna go with the Aquarian texture coated power dot. I've heard good things about that head.
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#780103 - 05/04/05 06:29 PM
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oh man... go with the coated ambassador. anything thicker then that on a snare will sound like muffled ass. unless you have bad technic and bash the hell out of your drums.. 95% chance it came with a coated ambassador new... i use coated ambassadors or a renaissance ambassador for my snare batter. ambassadors or emperors on tom batters, ambassadors on tom/kick bottoms, and powerstrokes for my kicks.. powerstrokes on snare batters are ok if you dont want minimal ring..
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#780104 - 05/12/05 05:42 PM
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i have the ambassador. i love it when it is tuned high. i'm in a metal band...
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#780105 - 05/12/05 07:03 PM
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Ditto on the Ambassador. I love it on snare. but not on anything else. Another I like even more for snare is the Evans J1. Here's a strange thing: I love coated Ambassadors for snare but hate them on toms; I love Evans heads on toms, but really dislike the G1 coated on snare. Weird, I know, but true.
Personally, I hate the texture coated dot. It's a very different head. Aquarians have always felt/sounded... I don't know, unnatural to me, as though I'm playing a head more than a drum. Although they do make a mighty fine kick head.
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#780107 - 05/13/05 10:01 AM
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ihategarybettman
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I agree, offramp. I've always liked the big E; if the sound is muffled, it's probably due to bad tuning or stick control.
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#780108 - 05/14/05 02:52 PM
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I used to like the coated Ambassadors but I've noticed that recently, Remo's quality has been inconsistent. The coating seems to come off the heads a LOT quicker than it used to.
I've been using Evans Genera heads on my snare and am really happy with it. They last a long time too, without the coating coming off.
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#780109 - 05/14/05 04:13 PM
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hey lee ever played with the Renaissance heads? it has a great texture. it seems to be molded with the head.it's not a powder coat. i do allot of jazz session work and i'm loving them with brushes..
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#780110 - 05/14/05 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by offramp: Originally posted by :::Eric:::(RhythmInMind):
oh man... go with the coated ambassador. anything thicker then that on a snare will sound like muffled ass. unless you have bad technic and bash the hell out of your drums.. 
Thanks for enlightening me. 
you and maybe others didn't get my point the first time around. So let me clear this up.. i was saying unless your a heavy hitter or have bad stick "technique" (better for ya) and need a thick head anything thicker then an ambassador or single ply head on a snare sounds to muddy, and muffled for my taste.
I like allot of snap and attack with my snare sound.. i've tried everything from kevlar ,CS dots, to diplomats. this includes having to use an emperor as a temporary fix. ambassadors and power strokes have become my default.
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#780111 - 05/14/05 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by :::Eric:::(RhythmInMind):
[QUOTE]Why your getting offended at my opinion, and at a comment that was directed at nothing but a recommendation i don't know.
you and maybe others didn't get my point the first time around. So let me clear this up.. i was saying unless your a heavy hitter or have bad stick "technique" (better for ya) and need a thick head anything thicker then an ambassador or single ply head on a snare sounds to muddy, and muffled for my taste.
Look...speaking for myself, I've been playing playing longer than you've been alive, more than likely (and judging from your resume`), and I've been using coated Emperors for about as long as you've been alive, more than likely. I've yet to have anyone comment negatively or about the "muffled ass" sound of my kit, directly or otherwise. I don't have a bad stick technique nor am I a heavy hitter. I use Emperors because they're a little tougher than Ambassadors, last a little longer between head changes, and suffer temperature changes a little more durably.
Here's a good guideline: reread what you're about to post, and see if it would piss you off or offend you if someone said something similar to you in the exact wording you are about to let loose.
food for thought.
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#780112 - 05/14/05 10:50 PM
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CALM DOWN!!!!!!!!!!
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#780113 - 05/15/05 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by offramp:
I'll tell you why. Because you didn't frame it as an opinion, and certainly not as a humble one. You stated it as a fact, with disregard for others' experience. 
Besides, I agree with him. Double-ply heads don't do it for me. They just sound dead.
Ambassadors on all drums. Coated on the snare. I'd use Diplomats if I thought I could get away with it. I'll add my own muffling.
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#780114 - 05/15/05 08:11 PM
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Our drummer often uses clear Ambassadors on all batter heads (except the kick). It's loud as hell but boy does it sound great. 
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#780115 - 05/15/05 11:20 PM
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Grammar has nothing to do with it, Super.
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#780116 - 05/16/05 10:53 AM
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ambassador coated snare- the SM57 of snare heads
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#780117 - 05/16/05 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by joeq:
ambassador coated snare- the SM57 of snare heads
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#780118 - 06/03/05 12:54 PM
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so ambassadors are the way forward then??
What do people think to CS dot skins.
I play fairly shallow premiere genista snare (5'5)
but feel I sometimes need a bit deeper sound. Sometimes need it for rather subtle jazz type stuff, but also for full blown miced up funk/pop/rock gigs. Not sure if this cs dot skin deadens it a bit too much.............any thoughts?
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#780119 - 06/03/05 01:35 PM
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I think it's a common thing to assume that deeper is going to come from thicker. (insert sexual innuendo here.) The only thing that will deepen your sound is a deeper shell. Thicker heads will act as a bandpass across the frequency range, so you will loose brightness in your sound as well as some of the presense. That's where you get the "muddy" traits people talk about. This is why I personally abhor thick snare heads. You wouldn't ask a singer to put a towel over her head while singing, would you? It's the same thing with heads. I don't even like CS dot heads and I'm surprised they're still around. Those came out in the 70s when engineers were trying to kill all the personality in snare drums.
Richiejazz, try an Evans J1 and see if you like it.
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#780120 - 06/03/05 02:09 PM
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i agree with what sidereal has to say....
you want deeper, tune lower.
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#780121 - 06/04/05 10:20 AM
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Cheers sidereal - yeagh I've been waiting for a comment like that on the CS'!!! They Don't even seem to act as an acceptable 'dampener' just lose the character a bit. Its taken me a while of using one to realise that!! Also when I said deeper: didnt really mean that, I'm happy with pitch of the skinny drum I'm using, was really enquiring to see if anyone has experience of skins that seriously seem to enhance the character of their snare, or differ it somewhat?
Been thinking of trying out Evans - I like the sound of many drummers who use evans skins.....
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#780123 - 06/08/05 02:19 PM
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Was gonna Get an Evans J1, but managed to land meself an Evans Power Center Reverse Dot instead. Anyone got any experience with them?
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I'm sad, now how do i practice, BY THE WAY, I CAN"T JUST BUY A NEW HEAD CUZ MY SNARE IS A PIECE O' SHIT!! suggestions?
