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#780058 - 04/10/05 01:01 PM Which E-Drums Produce Least Bad Vibes?
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I recently picked up a Yamaha DTXPRESS II kit and love being able to practice at 11pm and not wake the neighbors (or my wife, for that matter).
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#780059 - 04/10/05 06:44 PM Re: Which E-Drums Produce Least Bad Vibes?
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I always thought Roland's V-Drums were a great kit; they have that super-tight mesh that gives like a head, and absorbs the energy the same.
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#780060 - 04/10/05 08:41 PM Re: Which E-Drums Produce Least Bad Vibes?
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My good friend Offramp speaks the truth.

I recommend you check into Hart Dynamics pads. They have what you need. Both the Acupad and the Hart Pro pads are mesh and probably cheaper than the Roland mesh pads....probably better made too.
http://www.hartdynamics.com/home/index.html

Pintech also makes mesh pads. They have licensed the technology from Roland. My guess is that will affect the price making them more expensive, however.

Any of them would probably be fine. I personally happen to feel that the Roland pads work great but are not built as solid as I would like. For what they charge for them, they're really kinda flimsy.

Let us know what you go with and how you like them.
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#780061 - 04/10/05 10:58 PM Re: Which E-Drums Produce Least Bad Vibes?
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My one question is this, while I agree that mesh heads are better, I only get the pain in my lead hand, which is almost always riding on the hi-hat or ride cymbal. Most electronic kits still use rubber cymbal pieces. Will upgrading to one that is full size (as opposed to the quarter size cymbals the DTX comes with) help? Has anyone else experienced similar pains from e-drums?
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#780062 - 04/10/05 11:51 PM Re: Which E-Drums Produce Least Bad Vibes?
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i use pintech triggers. great stuff..

http://www.pintechworld.com

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#780063 - 04/11/05 09:25 AM Re: Which E-Drums Produce Least Bad Vibes?
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Originally posted by pfastfoot:
My one question is this, while I agree that mesh heads are better, I only get the pain in my lead hand, which is almost always riding on the hi-hat or ride cymbal.
Sounds like a grip issue. All the mesh or real drum heads in the world aren't going to help you get around the pain caused by improper grip.
Could also be an ergonomics issue, in regard to the andles and distances you have things set up from you.
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#780064 - 04/11/05 09:46 AM Re: Which E-Drums Produce Least Bad Vibes?
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I don't think it's a technique issue, as (1) I don't get the pain when I play acoustic drums and (2) although it's been a while since I worked with a teacher, I studied percussion in a conservatory setting while in college, so I'm pretty sure I'm using a decent grip (at least for typical acoustic drum settings). If there is a technique unique to electronic drums, I'd love to hear more . . .
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#780065 - 04/11/05 12:05 PM Re: Which E-Drums Produce Least Bad Vibes?
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A little different~~ because your pads are very close..but after 10 years I have trained my wrists. Use rubber tipped sticks. And the ridges work great for rides /crashes. The mesh heads are not quiet enough, for me to track live, with accoustic instrumnets.


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#780066 - 04/11/05 06:12 PM Re: Which E-Drums Produce Least Bad Vibes?
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Quote:
Originally posted by pfastfoot:
My one question is this, while I agree that mesh heads are better, I only get the pain in my lead hand, which is almost always riding on the hi-hat or ride cymbal. Most electronic kits still use rubber cymbal pieces. Will upgrading to one that is full size (as opposed to the quarter size cymbals the DTX comes with) help? Has anyone else experienced similar pains from e-drums?
Well, the technique theory could be right. I have found with electronics that if I cannot hear the kit well enough my grip gets tense and my hand cramps up. That's all I can think of.

Otherwise, it is starting to sound like you may have wrist problem. My guess is that you would probably experience the same problem with acoustic cymbals that you are with the pads.

However, there are ways to give the cymbal pads a little more 'give' by putting those little cymbal springs onto your stands. This way, they won't be so ridged when you strike them.

Or you could try the eCymbals that Hart makes. I don't know much about them, but they look like regualar cymbals with triggers on them to me.
http://www.hartdynamics.com/products/ecymbal/index.html
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#780067 - 05/23/05 09:22 AM Re: Which E-Drums Produce Least Bad Vibes?
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I get the same lead wrist ache with non-mesh pads. It's almost like a shock sensation. I'm sure technique will improve it but it's real. But then you think of hi-hats and they don't have any give or bouncy either.

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#780068 - 05/24/05 02:15 AM Re: Which E-Drums Produce Least Bad Vibes?
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I get the same lead wrist ache with non-mesh pads. It's almost like a shock sensation. I'm sure technique will improve it but it's real. But then you think of hi-hats and they don't have any give or bounce either.

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#780069 - 05/25/05 08:34 PM Re: Which E-Drums Produce Least Bad Vibes?
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I use Hart Dynamics pads, and Pintech cymbals the ones that resemble real ones, not the rubber pads. No real problems so far, and definitely cheaper than Roland. I don't play as much as I used to, granted, as I play keys mostly now, but have been playing for about 30 years, and was able to transition rather easily. I'm sure this didn't help much, but I am glad the topic came up, and will try to integrate some of what I have seen here into my playing. Thanks for being so learned, and willing to help.

Jay

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