#779824 - 02/22/05 12:43 PM
Anything But The HH's!
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RG203
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Now that I'm starting to compile drum loops for my songwriting (I know, but finding a drummer has been impossible), I'm paying more attention to the drums whenever I hear a song.
Three Dog Night's version of "Mama Told Me Not To Come" was on the radio the other day. It uses a ride instead of HH during the verse, and a HH during the chorus. My knowlegde of drumming is limited, but that isn't the typical structure for a song. Of course there are no rules and one should experiment.
What are other examples that don't use a HH during the verse? The only thing I can think of is using brushes on the snare in place of the HH.
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#779825 - 02/22/05 01:19 PM
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Don't know one off top of my head ( I'll return if I happen to notice one in next days) but regarding loops: this example would be one that indicates the better option of programming a song's percussion rather than opting for a loop. Really interesting recordings have variations to even repeated sections.
Any case, good luck!
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#779826 - 02/25/05 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by RG203:
Three Dog Night's version of "Mama Told Me Not To Come" was on the radio the other day. It uses a ride instead of HH during the verse, and a HH during the chorus. My knowlegde of drumming is limited, but that isn't the typical structure for a song.
What kind of tunes are you doing? If you need a drummer that badly, and the tunes are something I can connect with, I'll be glad to track some drums for you here and send you the tracks.
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#779827 - 02/25/05 12:09 PM
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You can 'ride' on any availble item!
Pat Benatar's Heartbreaker rides the verse on the floor tom.
Procol Harum's Whisky Train rides on the cowbell, using an off-paradiddle pattern.
ZZTop's LaGrange rides the verse (such as it is) on the snare drum.
Other tunes ride the rim of a drum, or the shell of a drum, or a tamborine, or.... anything is possible. Feel free to experiment.
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#779828 - 02/25/05 01:22 PM
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Good God, man, never experiment!
Something might explode!
Like overly conventional thinking... 
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#779829 - 02/25/05 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by coyote:
You can 'ride' on any availble item!
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#779830 - 02/27/05 02:52 AM
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John Densmore of The Doors did it a lot.
I recorded a track with verses on ride and chorus on hi-hat and it worked great for the song. Switching from ride verses to hat choruses makes for an interesting effect and it can really crank up the dynamics of a chorus if you're playing a fairly open hat.
Personally, I'm kind of tired of going to the ride for a big chorus. It's starting to sound cheesy to me. I typically use different dynamics on the hat for changes in pop song structure. Maybe use the ride for guitar solos.
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#779832 - 02/27/05 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by RG203:
[QUOTE]By the end of this year I hope to achieve mediocrity... 
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#779833 - 02/28/05 08:28 AM
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Irrelevant to the thread but more  positive reinforcement: Real musicians like all kindsa music, man.
Any genre can be done well or poorly.
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#779834 - 02/28/05 09:09 AM
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I like both kinds of music, country AND western.
Originally posted by RG203:
I suspect most musicians around here detest the music that I like, which is C&W.
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#779835 - 02/28/05 10:02 AM
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I love good country music. The kind that isn't trying to be country, but just is.
I choose ride or hat or cowbell for that matter based on the groove, not on whether it's the verse or the chorus. Whatever works best for the part.
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For example, "He Get's That From Me" by Reba McEntire is a song I really like.
