#779595 - 12/28/04 05:57 PM
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#779596 - 12/28/04 08:02 PM
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Are you writing this in response to someone's question? Or are you just relaying some information to the masses?
Sorry ... just didn't know the purpose of the post. You're not answering a question, nor are you asking a question ... and that was puzzling.
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#779597 - 12/28/04 10:34 PM
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#779599 - 12/29/04 07:19 AM
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#779600 - 12/29/04 06:52 PM
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Why'd you delete that wonderful little nugget of information? Seems you deleted it from HC as well.
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#779601 - 12/29/04 07:06 PM
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Here's the original posts, for those who missed them:
Originally posted by Jazz+:
About that "broken swing" feel that the Bill Evans trio often played and that so much of modern jazz uses:
This style never realy goes into a walking feel but breaks the time up, allowing for some interesting interplay. It's good to become familiar with this imaginative type of playing rather than being locked into a rigidly-defined rhytmic role, because it stimulates creativity.
This style is difficult to explain as it has a swing feel without the usual ride cymbal and walking bass rhythm. There is interplay between the players with everyone listening to and taking ideas from one another.
It's important that one be constantly aware of the layout of the melody as well as the entire tune's form as the entire rhythm section incorporates these elements into its playing.
The drum comping is often closely keyed to what the piano player is doing. The best drummers are always sensitive to what the pianist is playing, and often respond rhythmically to their comping.
"Broken swing" feel often never goes to a typical walking four-beat although it can do so.
Sorry. I guess we'll just go back to talking about gear then.
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#779602 - 12/29/04 09:29 PM
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Jazz+is more than likely trying to prove some point. He/she posts some information like they know everything, but then when you question WHY the thread was started, he/she pulls off some comment like they are stooping to some low level ... suggesting that all is ever talked about is childish discussions on who makes the best drumhead.
Sorry, but this kind of attitude comes off like a prima donna, like he/she is trying to raise the bar and we aren't willing to go along for the ride. 
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#779603 - 12/31/04 05:11 PM
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Usually seen at Keyboard Corner, Jazz+ is knowledgable, not just some blowhard...but does seem to jump around a bit as far as posting subjects.
What the point here was, I can only guess (not about subject but about the "post & run" style.
Bartman's pickup that this was posted several places is interesting but still reveals naught about the point...
I am just wondering here but ...have you ever talked to someone who was well-read but tended to not actually have practical experience & therefore failed to develop a conversation beyond the original thoughts?
Then there are those who don't accept that other opinions may have validity...but speculation can be too easily confused with suggestion or labeling, so I'll stop here.
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#779604 - 12/31/04 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by d:
I am just wondering here but ...have you ever talked to someone who was well-read but tended to not actually have practical experience & therefore failed to develop a conversation beyond the original thoughts?
Then there are those who don't accept that other opinions may have validity...but speculation can be too easily confused with suggestion or labeling, so I'll stop here.
It's not the content of the original post ... it's more about the point trying to be made. I know in some instances that continued activity like this has shown that the poster is trying to prove something, such as how much they know. I've seen this on forums where the majority of the participants are young, so someone can just stop by, spout some rhetoric, and "appear" wise. The intent ... to gain respect and approval from other members on the forum. I'm truly surprised to see it on this forum.
I could be wrong ... won't be the first time ... but with the content of the original post, and the fact that it was not an answer to someone's question, nor was it a question itself, I would hope that it's an attempt to spark some dialogue on the topic ... although I feel it was the wrong way to go about it. Then, when I simply asked what the purpose of the post was ... we got the response "Sorry. I guess we'll just go back to talking about gear then." What's up with that? To me it seems like sarcasm ... and implies that all that is talked about here is gear or some other low-brow topic.
When someone posts a thread like this, and does the exact same thing on multiple forums within a small time frame ... there's more to the "intent" than meets the eye. Then covering the trail by simply deleting it ... just doesn't make sense.
Anyway, enough about that. The human mind is an assortment of wonder. 
I would have liked to see Jazz+ just simply reply with ... "sorry gang, I was just wanting to start up a conversation and I guess I went about it the wrong way." Is that so hard? I guess so. 
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#779605 - 01/04/05 04:36 PM
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Not to chase this too long but I wonder, since you saw this on other forums, Bartman, what happened there?
Development or withdrawal?
It' is a somewhat odd thing to do...& certainly it doesn't seem anyone did anything to derail the dialog other than J+.
FWIW, what I meant erlier is that sometimes people who have some knowledge of a subject can't develop that in conversation, etc., due to lack of real experience (though, again, I don't know that's what happened here).
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#779606 - 01/11/05 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by d:
Not to chase this too long but I wonder, since you saw this on other forums, Bartman, what happened there? Development or withdrawal?
Bizarre? yes indeed.
But now ... back to drumming! 
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