#779517 - 12/07/04 04:43 AM
Re: eDrum pads. Gimme some opinions
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zele
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Still my favorite FAT KAT with Kurzweil samples 
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#779519 - 12/08/04 11:08 PM
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zele
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What age are we talking about ? -->>> price ? >> experience ? >>etc.
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#779520 - 12/10/04 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by The Tedster of Christmas Present: I'm a non-drummer, Zele, but interested in stuff like this for the possibility of gift ideas for my son (even if he's gonna go in part way on it...it's probably rather costly). What exactly is that setup?
BTW...  on the Beatles thing!
Zele's unit is one of the DrumKat line of products called the TrapKat.
Kat went under a little over a decade ago, but they were bought out by a couple of former employees, and now operate under the name 'Alternate Mode'.
The TrapKats are quite fun to play, because just about anywhere you thow your stick, you're bound to hit something. 
I think they can be had for around a grand. When they came out, I believe they were about $1300. I could be way off on that, it was a while ago. But Kat products were always considered to be superior, and they came with a price tag.
If you go with one, be aware that the these things don't use the common piezo triggers, that everyone else uses. Kat incorporated a pressure sensing membrane. It works very well, but it has had a tendency to wear out over time, and I think Alternate Mode's repair fees are a little steep. Still, it's not like guitar strings or anything. You should be able to get a lot of use out of it before any of those issues arise.
Another possibility in the Kat line -and on the cheap- might be the DK-10. Basically, 10 pads instead of 24, and no LCD display. Last I heard, they were around 300 bucks.
Neither unit has built in sounds, so you'll need to MIDI into a sound module.
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#779521 - 12/11/04 01:26 AM
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i'd recomend pintech pads myself
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#779522 - 12/11/04 03:01 AM
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Originally posted by RhythmInMind:
i'd recomend pintech pads myself
Have you played the Harts?
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#779523 - 12/14/04 11:49 PM
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I have PINTECHS . Without the sound module my set with 2 bass, 3 toms, 1 double zone snare, 2 double zone cymbals and 1 hyhat controller with RACK was $1250 U.S. from http://tigerbill.com
PINTECH is LICENSED TO USE THE ROLAND PATENT. The heads are made by REMO with the ROLAND NAME right on them.
Then pick the favorite module of your choice to go with this! There are 12-13 triggers alltogether so you will need a module capable of using all of the triggers. Decent used on EBAY around $300 and I think a new Roland module goes for $895.
I have never done wrong with Roland gear. I sold a TB-303 for over $1000 last summer and my OCTAPAD is going up in value every day now. The price has doubled in the past year !
I'm using an old 1992 Roland SPD-11 (modified with 7 extra inputs) WITH MY PINTECHS. I plan on upgrading to a better module some day.
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#779524 - 12/15/04 04:28 AM
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zele
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My TrapKat was $600 new (back when the companies were changing hands) Never had any problems --playing them for over 10 years > live & studio. Take up no room, easy to set-up ::: and have 24 ~ on-board pads + plus kick & hat
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#779525 - 12/15/04 10:21 PM
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My issues with Pintech:
10" pads are too small. They work well for hi toms, which are close to the hi-hat and the snare, but I like larger toms further down on the kit. It's too easy to miss a pad when they are that small. I like to set up similar to a standard accoustic kit.
Also, I understand they are licensing from Roland. I'm not sure what this means in terms of quality. I don't doubt it probably translates into a higher price.
While I've always felt that Roland makes good gear, I have never been too impressed with their pads. It always seem like gear made for drummers by keyboard players, and I don't really consider it 'road worthy'.
I get to play a VDrum kit pretty regularly. It's not the top of the line model, but it does have the mesh pads. I've been a little disapointed in the way it was constructed.
Overall it just seems kind of cheap for what it probably cost.
I'm interested in the Hart pads because they appear to be well made. And I also like the look of them. The old Simmons pads looked cool in a New Wave band, but for anything else you'd want something that looks more like a REAL DRUM.
I've never played Hart or Pintech. I kind of assume that if they have mesh pads, they probably feel similar to the Roland pads.
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#779526 - 12/17/04 12:16 AM
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techristian
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I'm interested in the Hart pads because they appear to be well made.
I might also add that the Pintech "shells" are made of METAL. And yes they may be a smaller target than you normally hit.
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#779527 - 12/17/04 02:40 AM
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zele
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trap kat great for live or studio ....endless pads --easy to play --makes little or no noise in the studio for trackings...the main problem we had with Pintech--not quite enough for tracking with acoustic , in the same room. 
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