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#517848 - 06/27/05 09:40 AM free verse
RicBassGuy
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I didn't look very hard to see if this was already discussed, but does anyone write in free verse (i.e., not forcing lyrics to rhyme)? How about other poetry/rhyming structures, say limerick (AABBA)? Anyone ever try to translate a haiku to music? Or is everyone writing only in rhyming couplets?
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#517849 - 06/28/05 04:29 PM Re: free verse
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(Drunk voice from back of bar)

"FREEVERSE!!!"

I'm as free as a verse now...
And this verse you cannot cha-aange...

Sorry. I had to. \:D

I'm terrible at lyrics...
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#517850 - 06/28/05 05:06 PM Re: free verse
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I mostly rhyme, although I have a couple tunes that intentionally lack rhymes. And I do have a very loose piece of free verse that I intend to set to music someday.

My search for a rhyme often takes at least equal effort as the devlopment of meaning, and I confess that I have allowed rhymes to alter my initial concept of the song's story (structure dictating content). I don't recommend that approach and I actually feel that rhyme is less important in popular music than it has been in the past.

In the pop world, I think the most casual rhymer I have heard is Neil Finn. If you look at his most famous work, Don't Dream It's Over, only the second of three verses contains a rhyme--it seems almost accidental when he sings it. And the melody subverts the only rhyme in the chorus. He seems oblivious to syllable count as well.

Joe Jackson has a couple of non-rhymers on his Big World album, the title track and a beautiful ballad called Shanghai sky, which is the closest to free verse I think you'll find on a pop album (you may think you see some rhymes in the text, but as sung the lyrics really float):

Strange
How the world got so small
I turned around and there was nowhere left to go
So sad
The dream always dies
Each new arrival closes places in my mind
But I can dream
Until I go
Of smells that I don't recognize
And by the river
In Shanghai
The colour of the sky
Is something I've never seen
After the summer rain
Children smile
Curious and kind
And the world is big again

Deef
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#517851 - 06/29/05 01:02 PM Re: free verse
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Tedster, if I had a wet noodle I'd flog you with it. \:D And yes, it is always the drunkest guy in the place that decides he wants to hear Freebird... and usually wants to come on stage and help out.

Deef, thanks for the info! Always good to learn something new!
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#517852 - 07/28/05 06:14 PM Re: free verse
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I've tried alot of different things. I have a couple of things that don't rhyme, but I also have free rhyming "rap-like things" that are closer to slam poetry but not really slam and not urban, in fact more like western blues meets musical theatre.
~Bob

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#517853 - 08/17/05 01:43 PM Re: free verse
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I never use rhymes unless I realize I can really make a strong impact with it. Rhymes feels too cheap, in my mind.. catches but fades away quickly..
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#517854 - 08/21/05 04:08 PM Re: free verse
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i dont usually think about it
a good line is a good line
and the structure tends to flow from whatever follows

sometimes you follow the rythmn
sometimes you follow the rhyme
sometimes you flow with the structure
and sometimes you just blow all over the place

cheesey rhymes are always easy
and sometimes even fun
but words that say a lot without saying much at all
thats whats hard
thats the goal
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#517855 - 08/23/05 09:37 PM Re: free verse
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Well put, LOWBOY!
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