#514084 - 05/16/02 02:30 PM
Fleeting glimpses
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Tedster
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This is one of those "Has this ever happened to you?" threads. I don't know that there is any cure or remedy...but, it's kind of like a "Deja Vu", but in reverse.
I've got what I think is a cool idea for a chorus, but no verse. This morning, very fleetingly, I got the perfect idea for the verse, but before I could grab it, it was gone. Actually, much worse, it degenerated itself into something awful. I couldn't get the original idea back. It really wasn't a question of "Keep a pen or a tape recorder handy" because it was so fleeting that even if I'd had a tape recorder there and cued up and ready to go, it still would have been gone. Kinda like a quick deja vu, it hits out of nowhere, and then is gone.
Has this happened to you?
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#514085 - 05/16/02 03:56 PM
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Oh yeah, it happens to me all the f%*#king time and it's so frustrating! I get lots of little fleeting fragments of songs that come to me when I'm just starting to wake up, or if I have a dream in the middle of the night and it wakes me up briefly. And it always seems like it's a great song and then I totally lose it!
Wonder what's up with that? Is this God's little way of telling us what our potential is? But if so how do we go about realizing that potential if we can't friggin' remember it? LOL...
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#514086 - 05/16/02 04:02 PM
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Tedster,
Too many times for me.
Sometimes my dog wakes me in the middle of the night to go outside. It was a couple of weeks ago, and she was taking along time to do her thing. Well I picked up my guitar while I was watching her, and I was working on a riff. It sounded good to me. Well I debated whether to write it down, or trust my instincts. Well, since it was about 3:00 am, I decided to trust my instincts. Unfortunately, I have not been able to capture the same thing. One would think I would have learned by now that I do have to write or record while I come up with something.
Oh well, maybe I should go to a hypnotist to help me recover all my lost riffs, songs, and ideas. 
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#514087 - 05/16/02 07:44 PM
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Hopefully, I lost those ideas because they really weren`t that great to begin with. The ones that are good I have time to write down or grab a recorder. The problem is the recorders not always handy.
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#514088 - 05/17/02 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by Kcbass:
Hopefully, I lost those ideas because they really weren`t that great to begin with. .
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#514089 - 05/17/02 01:02 PM
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Oh man, too often. Sometimes, I'll even have the idea circulating and walk to the little recorder and something will pop up like a headline on the newspaper or just anything I see or hear and bam; it's gone. Drives me nuts.
Also, many times I'm playing without the tape running and find something way cool. Then I'll try another bit out and say to myself, 'hey this would go great with that,' and then the first one is just gone. Rats.
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#514090 - 05/20/02 06:39 PM
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Yeah happens all the time.
Good news/bad news.
good:It happens all the time -so theres always a flow of stuff.
bad: I lose most of it.
Sometimes If I capture it by humming into a cassete recorder and then try and re-create the thought on an instument later the vibe is lost. Sometimes the suble nuance of what I was hearaing in my head is just not captured/ re-kindled. Or, sometimnes my musical rendition is just not able to bring out the magic that was there.
However, I only need one truly great song to come through in order to retire early and die happy -
It just might happen tonight - or never 
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#514091 - 05/21/02 08:44 PM
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Were you waking up from a dream when this happened ? (I ask 'cause it sounds like the problem people recount of trying to recapture a dream, like LeeF's comment.)
Several years ago there was a device promising "mind -to-MIDI" control that was actually advertised in KEYBOARD magazine; you might be able to find one on eBay;this could come in handy...
Lastly, James Brown once said that the best advice he could offer aspiring writers was this:
If you have a good idea, use it to write a hit song; if you have another good idea use it to write another song !
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#514092 - 05/21/02 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by d:
Were you waking up from a dream when this happened ?
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#514093 - 05/21/02 11:40 PM
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It's happened to me more times than I'd like to think. Usually when I'm not in a position to write the lyrics down or lay a melody line to tape, I sing the tune OVER AND OVER AND OVER in my mind to implant the idea... sometimes I lose it before I get to the point of securing the idea, sometimes it comes back to me days later having beat it into my head. This is when I know it's going to be a good song, when it's catchy enough to hang around. 
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#514094 - 05/22/02 12:00 AM
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Heya, Ani'fa...how's it going? Long time no hear from! Hope all's well in your world!
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#514095 - 05/22/02 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by Tedster:
Heya, Ani'fa...how's it going? Long time no hear from! Hope all's well in your world!
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#514096 - 05/24/02 11:55 AM
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Well this one hits close to home. I just flew back from Houston, a trip that took me to Dallas, Huntington (Lufkin area), Vidalia Louisiana, Natchez Mississippi, and back to Houston. I traipsed down to the Under the Hill Tavern and got a pint and all these phrases and hooks were bouncing around inside my head, so I scribbled them down on a couple of coasters. I get em back to the hotel overlooking the Mississippi river on this huge bluff, and I can't for the life of me remember how these things went together. That night I was at a crawfish boil with friends I haven't seen in 25 years, and over a couple of beers.....those ghosts came back.....I was remembering!!!!!! Needless to say....it irked me, here I am in party mode and I get these haunts. After returning to Texas a few days and lots of catfish, oysters, and mudbugs later, I was sitting in Texas heaven on the front porch of my parents hacienda watching about 150 different species of birds loving life while I drank Community coffee in the cool morning. Nothing like it. Those haunts came back....but aha....my dad has recording equipment and guitars around!!!! So I got those phrases down to keep....or did I? I left the damn cassette on the dresser in the guest room!!!!!! I do have the coasters, I've got the feeling, the experience, the yearning.......but I'll be damned if I can remember it all again!!!!!!! By the way.....I'd forgotten how good Tex-Mex food is in Tejas.....even the drive through places are better than the sitdown places in Virginia. But there is a silver lining to this story, other than the fun.....found out my Dad has jumped into building guitars. Not just any old guitar....DREADNAUGHTS paterned after the HD28, with all the abalone and herringbone. He uses deer antlers for the nuts and bridge slot and all exotic woods, some domestic, some imported. I'll get a picture posted when he brings mine in August!!!!!! I am psyched!!!!!!!!  What was this thread about anyway?
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#514097 - 05/24/02 12:54 PM
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Say Geenard, sounds like when you thought something up in a pub, then went back to the hotel room and couldn't remember, then went back to the pub and did remember, well, sounds like you need the similar atmosphere to let the ideas come back. Hope you get the cassette mailed to you.
I think that's cool your dad is building instruments. Always wished I had some musical folks in my family.
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#514098 - 05/24/02 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by DC:
Say Geenard, sounds like when you thought something up in a pub, then went back to the hotel room and couldn't remember, then went back to the pub and did remember, well, sounds like you need the similar atmosphere to let the ideas come back. Hope you get the cassette mailed to you.
I think that's cool your dad is building instruments. Always wished I had some musical folks in my family.
If you ever get a chance to get to Natchez, the Under the Hill Tavern is a place I used to play bottle neck slide in 25 years ago for beer and a handshake with an old friend now deceased named John Allen Smith. Great food everywhere down there.
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#514099 - 05/24/02 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by Kendrix:
Yeah happens all the time.
Good news/bad news.
good:It happens all the time -so theres always a flow of stuff.
bad: I lose most of it.
RobT
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#514100 - 05/24/02 06:15 PM
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(Bombay via Oxford voice):
"Oh, my young western friend, always concerned about the me & the my;do you not recognize that in the universal mind-flow that there is no loss of ideas---when they fly out the window of one mind, they fly in the door (which Rama has conveniently opened) to another ?
"...Words are flowing out like endless rain into a papercut,they slither blindly as they make their way across the Internet..."---JellOnoLennon
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