#434189 - 03/13/00 01:02 PM
Amek 9098i vs. S.S.L.9000J
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Quantum
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Dear George,
What is your opinion of the AMEK 9098i
console as far as it's sonic quality
is concerned, and it's ergonomic layout.
How do you feel it stacks up against
the now "King of the Hill" high-end
L.F.(Large Format)analogue console
domain "S.S.L.9000J". What do you feel
about the quality of the dynamics in
the 9098i. Do you think that AMEK
will start a war as far as competing
with the 9000J in high-end commercial
recording studios. Is there any other
analogue console out there currently in production that you feel can hang with
the 9000J? How do you feel about the
"Super Move" automation in the AMEK vs.
the 9000J automation?
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#434190 - 03/13/00 01:35 PM
Re: Amek 9098i vs. S.S.L.9000J
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gm
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Really sorry to seem so out-of-the-loop, but I've never worked on the Amek.
I've worked on 9000J's. They're not bad, although I lost a day's work in Vienna because of the automation. And noone from SSL has explained why. Speaking of which, why in this day and age would a company try to re-invent the computer (they opted for writing the operating system from scratch rather than implementing commodity-based solution that offers real value and much more power and support)? I mean, it's not a very well-honed automation system yet, is it? And it crashes alot, doesn't it? And SSL don't have alot of good explanations, do they?
I'm not sure that Amek is heads and shoulders better, either. They really don't have alot of experience in high-end consoles, do they? Have you spoken to Rupert about how he feels about Amek manufacturing methods? You should.
Overall, I want to say that anyone spending this kind of money on large frame analog desks in the year 2000 should have their heads examined. (I should put it far more kindly, of course, but I'm late for class.) Neither of these consoles really does resetability effectively, and I believe in my heart and my mind that mixing in the next few years is going to DEMAND instant, RELIABLE resettability.
I like digital desks, notably the Oxford and, believe it or not, O2R's (avoiding the converters altogether in the later). Frankly, most who complain about digital desks not having 'feel' or 'sound' that analog desks supposedly do are babies who've grown used to Pablum audio for too long.
Look, digital makes more sense. Your product is going to end up on a CD or worse sooner or later.
Get real.
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#434191 - 03/19/00 08:18 AM
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THE MIX FIX
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George:
I know you have a vested interest in the Sony Oxford, but O2Rs, really?
I better look at them again.
How about a console/recorder that goes directly from mic to MP3?
That would save us all a lot of time and trouble now, wouldn't it?
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Bob.
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#434192 - 03/27/00 01:31 PM
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bob,
Sit behind A capricorn if you want a digital desk that acts analogue. Seriously, it's won alot of converts over.
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SRS
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Steve Smith
No, not the drummer
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#434193 - 03/27/00 02:27 PM
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THE MIX FIX
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Yeah, but how about an Axiom, by SSL?
It's the EXACT same board as a 9K, but is Digital, with fully automatic, instant, Total Recall.
You don't need to know an extra thing about it, if you know SSLs.
Just sit there and do your thing.
The only way you can tell it's Digial is by the INSTANT reset, and the Digital sound quality (Which I won't go into here again).
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Bob.
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#434194 - 03/27/00 07:44 PM
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Those digital desks are supposed to suffer from digital 'plug in delays' just as pro tools does...Comments?
Jules
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#434195 - 03/28/00 04:56 AM
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THE MIX FIX
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What do you expect? They're still Digital.
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Bob.
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#434196 - 03/30/00 03:25 PM
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I'm too happy with my 02R, but I have to agree about the converter.
But not to be sad, Apogee made a new option A/D/A card to be used with Yamaha 02R and 01V mixers. Now that's what I call good support.
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