#434060 - 12/02/03 12:10 PM
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dejon
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Why is the Avalon 737sp mic pre in practically every major studio and artist home studio spotlight . But when I read reviews there's always negatives concerning the eq and compressor section on the unit. Seems like every other pre is always a better choice when someone wants to compare 737sp to it. What is it about the pre that makes it shows up in so many studios ?
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#434061 - 12/02/03 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by dejon:
. What is it about the pre that makes it shows up in so many studios ?
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#434062 - 12/02/03 01:34 PM
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Really, really good marketing.
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#434063 - 12/02/03 02:18 PM
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dejon
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So what your saying it's all hype ? How could it fool so many people that should know better if it's just hype ?
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#434064 - 12/02/03 02:22 PM
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You know, I find the constant bashing of the Avalon 737 to be strange.
It is a fine product that does what it has to do well. And the nonsense about the compressor is just that. It is not a "squash the heck out of your signal" type compressor, but rather tames the highs in a nice, transparent manner. I think the EQ is superb.
When it first came out, it was nicknamed "the street cleaner" as it became an instant hit because of its price point/features/sound.
I guess the old adage that "familiarity breeds contempt" would apply.
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#434065 - 12/02/03 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by StoneinaPond:
It is not a "squash the heck out of your signal" type compressor, but rather tames the highs in a nice, transparent manner. I think the EQ is superb.
As for why is it on every major stuio picture? Marketing. And that Emily picture as well.
As for the question of "How could it fool so many people that should know better if it's just hype ? ".... well, you see more PC machines than Mac machines.... and that may be the reason of why it has been askled so many times wihtout coming to a single conclusion.
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#434066 - 12/02/03 08:08 PM
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StoneinaPond
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What it actually does is variable phase shift.
I don't measure. I listen.
As for why is it on every major stuio picture? Marketing.
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#434067 - 12/03/03 01:01 AM
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Simply use the pre-only section and you will understand why!! 
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#434068 - 12/03/03 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by StoneinaPond:
You know, I find the constant bashing of the Avalon 737 to be strange.
It is a fine product that does what it has to do well. And the nonsense about the compressor is just that. It is not a "squash the heck out of your signal" type compressor, but rather tames the highs in a nice, transparent manner. I think the EQ is superb.
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#434069 - 12/03/03 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by Jotown:
I agree.
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#434070 - 12/03/03 02:36 AM
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I have two of them.....want to buy them.
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#434071 - 12/03/03 03:07 AM
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I rather have a Millennia STT-1.
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#434072 - 12/03/03 04:00 AM
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I'd rather have the Millennia STT-1 (Origin) too! I don't mean to bash the Avalon. It's a good piece of gear. But as far as being good enough to be a staple in most studios, like the pre/comp/eq equivalant of the NS-10? I don't think so. The comp sucks. I do like the EQ and the pre is good. For the money the Origin is in a much higher class. I use the Avalon a lot and it hasn't let me down as long as I stay away from the Comp. But's it's not ALL THAT.
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#434073 - 12/03/03 05:53 AM
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Whaaa? I just got a great sounding take using the dreaded 737 with the compressor engaged. It actually sounded better than several other choices.
I think it can be a great tool if you know how to use it.
However, there are many other great tools that can do amazing things. I wouldn't want the 737 to be my only option.
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#434075 - 12/03/03 12:16 PM
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I also Find the Avalon often is the best choice for a preamp...(And I have neve's focusrite115's,true's, demeters, Manley's etc...)they all have there ideal situations...but the avalon is a good clean sound .. I use the Compressor it works fine for just small amounts of dynamic control2-5db... if I need lots of Compression I've got distressors and Fatso's for that...if people are finding it unusable they are probably trying too hard to make it something it isn't ... I wouldn't recomend trying to make a GML sound Like a Neve either...it don't work that way
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#434076 - 12/03/03 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by StoneinaPond: What it actually does is variable phase shift.
I don't measure. I listen.
My vote goes to the STT-1 or the ISA430.
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#434077 - 12/03/03 01:31 PM
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StoneinaPond
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If you can't hear it, then you have to measure it.
But if you can't hear it, but have some form of measuring capability, the question is why bother?
My vote goes to the STT-1 or the ISA430.
For the record (no pun intended,) I'm not impressed with the ISA series.
Whatever floats your boat.
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#434078 - 12/03/03 01:36 PM
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... kinda reminds me the YAMAHA NS10's !! ... they are everywhere... love 'em or hate 'em.
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As with any tool in the studio, the 737 can be misused and made to sound like squat. Used properly, it's a great tool - especially for the price point it's at.
