#432958 - 10/08/03 09:38 PM
Digi002, PC, MOTU, 02r/96
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wildplum
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I am not sure where to ask this question, so I am starting here.
Here's my set up. I have an 02R/96, 24 tracks of Tascam DA-78, MOTU digital timepiece, MOTU 2408 and a PC, cyrrently running audition and wavelab.
Typically, I track to the 78s, transfer to the PC for editing and then transfer back to the 78s for mixing via the 02r (and a bunch of outboard).
I am thinking of adding a Digidesign Digi 002 Rack to my studio. I would still track to the 78s, transfer to the PC, but edit in Digi002. I would like to mix from the Digi002 through the 2408 to the 02r, possibly using the DTP to control time code (necessary if I am going to use the 02r's automation). I realize I would be limited to 18 tracks from the Digi002.
The question is, with my current setup (the only audio card in my PC is the one from the 2408), can I do this? In other words, can the Digi002 either follow time code from the DTP or gen it for the DTP to "relay" to the 02r.96?
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#432959 - 10/08/03 10:11 PM
Re: Digi002, PC, MOTU, 02r/96
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Alndln
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Originally posted by wildplum:
I would like to mix from the Digi002 through the 2408 to the 02r
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#432960 - 10/09/03 03:31 AM
Re: Digi002, PC, MOTU, 02r/96
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wildplum
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Out of curiosity,why do you need both?
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#432961 - 10/09/03 04:37 AM
Re: Digi002, PC, MOTU, 02r/96
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Uh Clem
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Wildplum - I have PT LE (PC) and it can see my MIDI devices and follow incoming MTC (midi time code) and also send MMC to my DA78s - guess it could do the same for the DTP.
I don't know how the DTP fits into your setup - When I had DA78s connceted to my O2R, I used the SMPTE/MTC out of the 78s into the O2R (both clocked from an Aardsync WC, but I think you can let the DA78 feed clock to the O2R as well). The O2R will follow the SMPTE/MTC perfectly from the 78s. So I'd like to know more about how/why you use it.
So, there's you answer on that - I think you main goal as stated can be done easily enough ("I would like to mix from the Digi002 through the 2408 to the 02r"). I don't see how the DTP will do anything for you and you probably don't even really need the 2408 connected to the computer to do this - it could run standalone.
Now I have a Q for you:
I just got a DTP and I wanted to use it to convert DTRS sync from the 78 into ADAT sync going into the PCI-424(2408MKIII) ADAT Sync port. This should give me ASIO Positioning Protocol in Nuendo for sample accurate transfers to and from tape.
When I connect it as shown in the MOTU manual, as soon as the DTP Address light goes solid (locks to DTRS), the 2408/PCI424 output gets full of very loud pops and crackles - even when only monitoring the DA78 playback thru CueMixDSP - no Nuendo or any other software involved.
Do you know anything about this or how to get it setup? How are you using/connecting your DTP and DA78s?
Sorry to hi-jack your thread, but with the TASCAM forums down/closed and no email back from MOTU since Monday, I need some help or this DTP is going back to the store.
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#432962 - 10/09/03 07:56 PM
Re: Digi002, PC, MOTU, 02r/96
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Philip O'Keefe
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Well, I am not sure I am understanding the question correctly, but you need to take into account that PT LE will ONLY work with Digidesign's hardware for the audio interfacing - in or out. You can use third party MIDI interfaces, but not audio hardware with the Pro Tools LE software. So you can record as you have been, fly the tracks into PTLE (over lightpipe and / or analog) using the Digi 002 R hardware, but you won't be able to use MOTU hardware with Pro Tools.
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#432963 - 10/09/03 08:51 PM
Re: Digi002, PC, MOTU, 02r/96
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Uh Clem
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Philip, the 2408 can act as a standalone format converter between TASCAM TDIF, ADAT, SPDIF and Analog I/O - perfect to get the less common TDIF tape decks into a format that will connect to the 002 - there's also a cool DSP Mixer that you can run from the computer independently from any audio software - could act as a submixer into the OO2 or take on any number of chores -
I use it to build 6 headphone mixes - pretty handy - even along side of an MBox ;-) . I can take all of my 24 apogee inputs into the 2408 and route any pair (or submix) to the MBox - a very nice, inexpensive 24x24 digital patchbay/mixer/router/format converter with 8xAD/DA. And when I cut it loose on Nuendo or Sonar - super flexible.
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#432964 - 10/15/03 07:15 AM
Re: Digi002, PC, MOTU, 02r/96
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wildplum
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Uh Clem wrote:
"I don't know how the DTP fits into your setup - When I had DA78s connceted to my O2R, I used the SMPTE/MTC out of the 78s into the O2R (both clocked from an Aardsync WC, but I think you can let the DA78 feed clock to the O2R as well). The O2R will follow the SMPTE/MTC perfectly from the 78s. So I'd like to know more about how/why you use it."
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I've never been able to get this to work. I too have both the 78 and the 02r96 clocked off an Aardsync. However, when I connect the 78s Time Code out jack to the 02r's SMPTE in, the time code "stutters" or "sticks"- it drops out momentarily and then catches up. You can see this by looking at the time code display on the 02r's screen- the frames number will "stall" for a fraction of a second. I don't know if I've got the 78 or 02r setting correct- what setting do you use? Also, the 78's time code out is an RCA connector, the 02r's SMPTE in is an XLR- how have you got this wired?
So, I use the DTP, midi out to 02r MTC in.
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Uh Clem wrote:
"Now I have a Q for you:
I just got a DTP and I wanted to use it to convert DTRS sync from the 78 into ADAT sync going into the PCI-424(2408MKIII) ADAT Sync port. This should give me ASIO Positioning Protocol in Nuendo for sample accurate transfers to and from tape.
When I connect it as shown in the MOTU manual, as soon as the DTP Address light goes solid (locks to DTRS), the 2408/PCI424 output gets full of very loud pops and crackles - even when only monitoring the DA78 playback thru CueMixDSP - no Nuendo or any other software involved.
Do you know anything about this or how to get it setup? How are you using/connecting your DTP and DA78s."
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First, I've found the manual to be misleading in places, so you may have to experiment beyond what it says to do. Also, the system seems to be very sensitive to power up order. For example, I've gotten pops and clicks when I've had the computer powered up before powering up the DTP, 2408 and 78s.
I have the 78's connected one to another via Tascam synch then to the DTP, the DTP is last in the synch chain and I place the Tascam termination block on the DTP Tascam synch out. Control track one on the DTP is connected to the PCI card and audio wire out from the 2408 is also connected to the PCI card. If I am doing a transfer, the 78's TDIF ports are connected to the 2408. The PCI-324 console has the word clock setting to "2408: Word Clock" (the 2408 is also clocked off the Aardsynch).
I am not using ASIO Positioning Protocol, but it seems to me that the ADAT synch should not be necessary. The control track connection and the audio connection should handle synch between the computer and the 78's.
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#432965 - 10/15/03 05:49 PM
Re: Digi002, PC, MOTU, 02r/96
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Thanks - I was not using the DTRS terminator - I'll try that and change my power up order.
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