#432904 - 10/06/03 12:28 PM
Reason 2.0
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T.H.
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So I bought REASON thinking I could sample with the NN-19 sampler, low and behold I read it's a "SAMPLER PLAYER" FUCCCCCCCCK
so anyway, I still have my MPC2000
in which I never use, but I'm confused how to get my MPC files into Reason, must I RESAMPLE them in DP3 then transfer to REASON ? I even bought "USER'S GUIDE TO PROPELLORHEAD REASON 2"
I'm still not grasping it.
I've heard people say they produce Hip Hop/R&B within REASON - though all I hear within it is CLUB, TRANS & TRIP HOP within it. I'm a DP3 user so I play using my sound modules into DP3,please enlighten me that buying REASON was a good choice.
(it's a fukin SAMPER PLAYER) can you believe that shit
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#432905 - 10/06/03 10:46 PM
Re: Reason 2.0
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i take it that you produce hip-hop so i don't understand why you aren't using the MPC. this is the standard along with the SP1200 for producing beats. to be perfectly honest, i avoided reason because i felt that it was designed to be a fun game. almost like a techno music game and from most of the records that i've heard recently that use reason i still believe this is true. it has made making music by numbers simple and it reflects in much of the underground electronic music that i hear these days. everytime i walk into GTRCNTR i see new sounds and updates for reason so i believe there is much more potential than the simple 808/909/303 interface that was first introduced years back. so since you have a monster of a machine in the MPC that is collecting dust in your studio's corner i suggest that you clean it off, fire it up and sample reason sounds and riffs into it. the MPC sequencer is good and you can still sync it to DP and run reason live as well.
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#432906 - 10/06/03 11:00 PM
Re: Reason 2.0
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Gus Lozada
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Why not Reason 2.5?
And next time... do some research before spending $300, man... anyway... I still think you've bought a hell of a software!
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#432907 - 10/06/03 11:41 PM
Re: Reason 2.0
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chuck.dallas
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Hey T.H., Don't give up on Reason too fast. It's a cool program with lots of possibilities.
To try to answer your question about sampling, a lot of programs or devices will export your samples as .wav, .aif, soundfonts or rex sound files which can then be read by the Reason samplers (NN19, NNXT, also their Redrum device). So export those samples from DP3 or your MPC as .wav files onto your computer with Reason, then import them into your Reason session. You should be able to "play" them in Reason and do all kinds of crazy things with them.
Another approach is to use a program like ReCycle which takes external samples and slices them up and produces a REX file which can be used by Reason's REX Loop player. When this is done, you can adjust the tempo of the sample to match against the rest of your tracks. You can also move around the elements in the REX file and make variations of it.
A lot of people just buy off the shelf Reason Refills with a lot of REX files already produced in various styles, as well as other samples and patches for Reason's virtual instruments.
Anyway, I'd recommend to just keep messing around with Reason and you should get the hang of it. Hope this helps. Good luck!
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#432908 - 10/07/03 11:58 AM
Re: Reason 2.0
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Alécio Costa - Brazil
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wow, I am happy I have just read this. I was going to buy Reason 2.5 for my PT system. I would need to go OS X, PT 6.1 ( no no no).. 5.1.1/OS 9.2 is quite stable to me.
I heard some demos and I had the same feeling.. too techno sound...
Must I go back to the idea of picking a Fantom-S?
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#432909 - 10/07/03 12:18 PM
Re: Reason 2.0
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T.H.
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C2 -
I'm more of an R&B/Hip Hop producer, R&B being the main production, but I think I will start using my MPC again, I bought REASON for the same pressures I bought the MP, friends said "YO, YOU AINT GOT REASON, YOU SHOULD GET IT, IT'S HOT" at least the MP has a usage. Honestly, I can do the same exact thing in DP3 that the MPC can do, this is why it sits collecting dust, but because I play keys, thats another reason (ha ha ha another REASON) why it collects dust, I like to play my stuff, then re-sample it, to give it that edge that most hip hop cats like.
Moderador -
2.5 was a little more, so I got 2.0 from my hook up at Sam Ash (I used to work there) and I didnt feel the need to have the latest, when I was just trying to test waters.
Chuck.Dallas -
I will continue practicing & using it, I mean I'm not exactly going to GIVE UP, I like challenging myself and learning new things, but overall, it does sound like it's only good for CLUB, TRANS, stuff, in 10 minutes I was able to do a CLUB song, but it was so steady, just bum, bum bum bumbumbum bum bum bum, and I'm like a change chord progession 3 times in 4/4 measure ya know And though virtual instruments aren't my cup of tea, like I said, I want to learn new things at least to be up on it, I was just really pissed at the advertisement as "NN19 Sampler", then I read on the box after it's taken from behind the shelf, paid for and at home that's it's a SAMPLER PLAYER--- that pissed me off, but I'll survive 
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#432910 - 10/07/03 12:53 PM
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chuck.dallas
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TH: Just wanted to clarify one thing. Most software samplers do NOT sample -- I think there are only a couple of exceptions. Unlike hardware samplers (MPC, Akai, EMU, Kurzweil, etc.) which have inputs to record digital audio and store/modify that audio in some manner, software samplers are mostly designed as sample playback devices.
Suggest you pick up the latest issue of Keyboard Magazine (Oct. 03). Feature article is on soft samplers, including Reason, and positions and compares/contrasts them. Hope this helps.
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#432911 - 10/07/03 01:40 PM
Re: Reason 2.0
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T.H.
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Chuck.Dallas --
Thanks but no thanks, I bought out of haste, and it's my fault. Though reading some of the earlier ads, it is a little misleading to saying it has a SAMPLER. but never revealing it's a SAMPLER PLAYER.
though my research may not have been thorough, I know "I read that much" in a magazine, so that is misleading. now I know better.
until I hear someone's work done in REASON regarding R&B/Hip Hop, I'll just do some quick DANCE TRANS grooves with it, my wife seems to like it, I can do 5 songs within (1) in 30 minutes
(sarcasm) how ingenious.
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#432912 - 10/07/03 01:53 PM
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c2
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i see you. i did the same when i bought logic. i got into reaktor and thought i didn't need the MP anymore but it's magic kept calling me and i now only use logic for applications that i really need. everyone can tell you what's hot but that doesn't mean that it is. there's so much out there that makes it's easy to sit in front of a constantly crashing computer loaded with the newest software. but where's the inspiration in that?
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#432913 - 10/07/03 03:43 PM
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T.H.
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C2 --
I feel you fam, I feelz you on dat
I'll just stay with SKILLZ, not SOFTWARE ha ha ha
(I'm starting to see why the elders stick to analog, not that digital isnt bad, but the NEW technology is making it all to easy for someone without the work & creativity ethic to make songs, rather I should say beats) hence....
stay with what you know and use ya SKILLZ
just my two bronze coins worth
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#432914 - 10/07/03 05:40 PM
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chuck.dallas
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You're on the right path, man. I was just pointing out that almost all software samplers are sample players only. Most don't sample (record & store) like HW samplers.
Good luck with the SKILLZ making great music!
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#432915 - 10/11/03 08:31 AM
Re: Reason 2.0
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aliengroover
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When using the Reason demo, it did seem like it was bent towards the "electronic" crowd. But with actually owning it, ANYTHING can be done with it. I've only had it for a short time, and I haven't done one single club/trance/techno track...just R&B.
I personally love my MPC. It's THE workhorse in my setup. It's the most "intuitive" piece I've ever worked with. By saving your MPC samples as wav files, you can throw them in there, but that's a heck of a workaround. Nonetheless, I LOVE Reason and see a long, happy working relationship.
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#432916 - 10/14/03 02:50 PM
Re: Reason 2.0
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T.H.
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aliengroover
could you please send me something, so that I can hear your R&B that's done in REASON
mstudio1224@aol.com, or you can put it in here
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