#390777 - 01/27/00 07:47 PM
What are your personal feelings about the Roland VS-1680 and the effect boards?
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CeeBig
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I have really been thinking about purchasing one and really want to be cautious in my purchase. So, if anyone could offer me some incite into the unit I would really appreciate it.
Do anyone think or know if Roland will be releasing another model of the VS series (i.e. Roland VS-2480)?
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CeeBig
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#390778 - 02/02/00 04:49 AM
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Hey man, I own the VS840 EX (the little brother of the big beast!) And I must say, i'm VERY impressed with even this model. I would DEFINATLEY recomend any of Rolands V-studio boards for any serious musician/engineer/recorder. The only thing is that it will take a good while before you will be fully aware of how to accomplish all of your goals with confidence on these boards...but once you have, it's better bang for the buck and paying 100+ dollars per hour in the studio...these boards do it ALL!
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#390779 - 02/02/00 01:37 PM
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Don't buy a 1680 because you are on a budget, buy it because it's a killer machine and that's what it costs. It is a serious tool. This thing is rock solid. It has a long learning curve, but once you've got a handle on the interface, there's no stopping what you can do. Once you get your signal inside, you can process, edit, mix, master, cut CD's and turn your automated coffee maker on and off. I would recomend using a good mic pre on the front end but that's personal choice. This is a hands on machine with too many functions and features to explain all at once. I could, but I would be here all day. Hope this helps.
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#390780 - 02/03/00 03:28 AM
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Are the effects realtime meaning can I apply them during mixdown and how is the vocal quality?
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#390781 - 02/03/00 10:15 PM
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Yes the effects are in real time. You can also track, say, a vocal with a really nice plate or delay, or for that matter any effect you want as either Pre, Post, or Insert, but.....the effect you hear while tracking doesn't have to be recorded. This is great if you change your mind and want to add a different kind of effect later. The effects sound really good and with a little tweaking they can sound great.
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#390782 - 02/06/00 04:44 AM
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Can you mute and solo tracks out in realtime during mixdown?
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#390783 - 02/08/00 04:52 PM
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Hey guys, I own a VS 1680 and I absolutely love it. If you are interested you need to visit the unofficial website of the VS machines...with over 1500 registered members sharing ideas, exchanging songs and telling it like it is in regard to these machines.
My opinion on the new 1880, its weak. It's not what we all expected. We all had a 2480 in mind. But to some extent, we all feel relieved that we did not all of a sudden feel like we own an outdated machine. Don't get me wrong, the 1680 is a powerful machine and it will continue to serve many musicians and recording engineers for years to come. Drop in at http://www.vsplanet.com and get registered and ask questions and search the archives for topics....its all there. I'm currently recording a big band combo with horns and such on my 1680 and its all being done with the 2 expansion board effects internally. Its sound like a million dollars. Good luck, hope this helps. http://www.vsplanet.com
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#390784 - 02/08/00 09:48 PM
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Thanks for your help but can you mute and solo tracks out on the VS-1680.
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#390785 - 02/10/00 02:26 AM
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The answer is yes! And much more like automating your mix down to stereo tracks for finalizing in the mastering section.
With the new software upgrade, you can be tracking 16 channels and still mix down to a stereo pair of masters equivalent to tracks 17 and 18. You conveniently burn these special tracks to CD.
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#390786 - 02/10/00 02:40 AM
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What is the bit size on the VS-1680 for D/A to A/D converters? (16, 20, or 24 bit)
Does the compression cause a problem on the sound quality of the VS-1680?
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#390787 - 02/10/00 11:18 AM
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Hei,
Just fyi. I have been using a AKAI DPS12 machine for a year an a half now. I Believe it has similar feature, is a bit cheaper that the VS1680, thought it has 8in and a 20 channels (12 track+8Midi tracks) mixer. The effect board is packed of effects (many reverbs, compressor, noise gate, limiter, delays, etc). I use a ART Tube mic preamp and an AKGC3000 with it. It has been very rewarding to work with this machine though it also has long learning curve if you want to use all the features.
I am now moving to PC recording because I want a BIGGER screen to look at AND more tracks in the mixer section. Expansive though, and difficult to know what to buy.
Hope this above will be of interest to you.
JD
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#390788 - 02/11/00 12:11 AM
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JD, What type of computer setup do you want?
How is the sound quality on the Akai DPS12 and does it use compression?
Is the only reason you are going to computer because the DPS12 does not have enough channels?
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#390789 - 02/11/00 02:14 AM
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Hey you guys, this ball keeps rolling. Spent the last couple of days looking up all the new toys from the NAMM show. Some really cool things and some fluff too. Checked out the new 1880, contacted sales and I'm not impressed. Roland is just throwing the goo bag around and hoping to pick up a few new sales out of the same old box. Sorry Roland, I'll wait for the 24 track version. I like working in this environment. If they don't come out with a 24 track version, no sweat, Mackie has the new 24 track and so does Tascam. The best thing about these new machines is that a couple of MIDI cables allow the 1680 to run the show. Here's an example of today's adventure with the 1680. I recorded 20 voice radio info spots ranging from 30 seconds to 60 seconds long. Once in the 1680, they were edited, sequenced, pre mastered, and sent to the two master tracks. CD was cut, customer walked away with copy in hand, no sweat. I even have a data backup copy on the shelf in case they have any new ideas down the road. In, out, fast, done, and I can call it back in a flash...........................work this box, it's a great tool!
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#390790 - 02/11/00 03:42 AM
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CeeBig
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Yo Marshall,
Is Roland going to come out with a 24 track version? Did Sales say anything about that.
How are the new upgrade enhancements working on the VS-1680?
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#390791 - 02/11/00 07:19 AM
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I am getting a PIII 600 with 128MB RAM, 9GB SCSI2 HD, Win98, and a 24bits/96khz 8in/8out 16channels card package from Hoontech.
The Akai machine does not use compression and sounds no problem. I don't know how many channels does the mixer section of the 1680 have, but beside that, the Akai does all as well (recording up to 250 tracks, 26 hours of 48khz, 3 bands EQ, SCSI port to plug your CD burner in and do backups or mixdowns). BUT the screen is REALLy a bit small, especially when it comes to mixing. You can only see the sound wave of one track at a time. You can cut paste, stretch, etc all in digital, but I really wish I could see all the waves on a big screen together, because in long mixing sessions, it takes a lot of energy to remember what is where. I would also be happy with more mixing channels and hope to be able to somehow playback 30 channels at once. ALso I need more than 2 insert effects (the Akai only has 2) and hope to benefit from plug-ins.
Bottom line: I think PC can be better than Roland/Akai, but the total cost in the end (Harware+software) is almost double. So if your budget is tight, you'll do wonders with the portable machines...
Hope this help!
JD
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