#3103 - 08/10/01 08:41 PM
when a take just doesn't happen...
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carne_de_res
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i first started recording other's people music at the beginning of this year.
a problem that often occurs is a musician being unable to get a right take of a particular song,which leads to endless re-takes,and,often,the musician
losing faith in his own skills,which just worsens the situation.
the guy repeats a single part for 10 times,he doesn't get it and starts getting nervous.
"i'm shit! i can't play/sing decently".
as a beginner myself,my very first goal is to make the recording a pleasing and inspiring experience for my client,not the living hell that it sometimes is.
i'd really like you to share with me some little "psychological tricks" that you use to make the musician feel a bit more comfortable...if you use
any tricks at all.
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#3104 - 08/10/01 10:10 PM
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#3105 - 08/10/01 10:53 PM
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Artist are difficult to handle, espcially f you are ine as well 
To make people less nervues: let them practice , tell them your not recording, tell them that this is just to see if it works and you'll do the real take later, tell them it is just a line check.... what ever - but all ways keep recording.
As for musician who just can't deliver - I once had to record a guitar chord progression note by note - thank god for digital recording. 
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#3106 - 08/11/01 12:15 AM
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I use boredom! I tell a long story or have a long break, by the time the break is over the musician(s) are DESPERATE to get back to work & nail a take!! While recording I 'switch back on' & keep a good vibe going 'urging' good performance from the session.
Jules
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#3107 - 08/11/01 02:53 AM
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Bonafide
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Praise works wonders. Some players simply aren't rehearsed enough when entering the studio and that slows everyone down. If the 'player' in question has band mates, encourage them to praise as well. Confidence in ones self can dwindle very quickly. 1 single sincerecompliment about thier tone, vibe,playing etc.can work miracles.
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#3108 - 08/11/01 06:52 AM
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I think there's a "frustration horizon"...a threshold which, when crossed, makes any successive takes futile. At that time it's time to either work on something else or call it a day. Really...
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#3109 - 08/11/01 07:05 AM
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I record the drums in the same room as the musicians are in, only everyones instruments are isolated. One great way to get a great drum take is to set everyone up, and press record, and then come over the headphones "hey we're gonna getta a headphone mix going and I wanna hear the song a few times before we record so I can get a feel for it, so go ahead and run through it for me once or twice." Bammo, 1st take, the drummer never got "tape-nervous" and you got it. Do that with all thier songs right in a row, and if it works, call them into the control room to hear the drums tracks and make a decision. When they realize the drums are already done or almost ready, its happy time and you can get on with overdubs. So anyway, I find that fooling people can sometimes get a better take, quicker.
Another thing, take a break... or say "I'm gonna roll without recording so you can practice" (and if they cant see you say... I'm gonna take a leak, so just practice over it a few times." Then, stay in the room and grab the good take.
If its guitars, pass the whole part or song up and call the vocalist in for a bit. Playing all day sometimes is what gets you, finger fatique. Make sure they get away from the instrument during breaks.
Or the best way ever... get stoned with them... everyone relaxes and feel more brotherly, light some candles, kill the lights, and nail that fucker and get to mixing
Peace!
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#3110 - 08/11/01 08:33 AM
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Pret-ty sneaky...Tube Dude...
I LOVE it...(evil laugh)...
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