#1962596 - 06/25/08 08:08 AM
Herbie @ Carnegie Hall
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Mark Zeger
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I was there Monday night to see "The River of Possibilities", as he calls it. Only a couple of songs from "River", a couple from "Possibilities", and several old school gems.
The set list (IIRC):
Actual Proof
River
Love Comes to Town
Dave Holland solo
Herbie piano solo/Maiden Voyage
All I Want
Song for You
Cantaloupe Island
Chameleon
Here's the NY Times review:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/25/arts/music/25hanc.html?ref=arts
I didn't dig Sonya Kitchell as much as I expected. I thought she'd be the perfect vocalist to cover Joni, but not so much as it turned out. Chris Potter is heir to the Michael Brecker throne (if ever there could be) of providing deeply soulful tenor solos that serve a pop song. Dave Holland played a Precision-style bass much of the evening but he took an unaccompanied acoustic bass solo that spoke volumes. In addition to dipping into the back catalog for "Actual Proof", "Cantaloupe Island" and "Chameleon" (on which Herbie went mobile with a Roland AX7 to trade licks with Potter and Loueke), he played a stunning solo piano improv that morphed into "Maiden Voyage". I wish I could have heard that Fazoli without the mics and sound reinforcement.
Oh, and some complete asshole in the row behind me (upper balcony) yelled "TURN DOWN THE DRUMS" 3 times early in the show while the ushers did nothing.
All issues aside, it very was cool to see and hear masters at work.
Lionel Loueke's band opened. Though I didn't like "Karibu" at first listen, I totally get it now.
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#1962609 - 06/25/08 08:29 AM
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I was at the show, too, in the first tier, right side. I agree with most of your comments, Mark, but I also agree with the Times review -- overall, the show was very uneven.
It was my first time seeing Herbie. I thought the piano should've been louder, actually. Also, I thought Herbie's solo, while well-played, was on the sleepy side. I was more impressed by his solo when he joined Loueke's band -- that was fiery stuff! Kitchell was awful -- she butchered "River." And no encore? For the amount of money I paid for tickets, there should've been an encore.
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#1962616 - 06/25/08 08:40 AM
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I was at the show, too, in the first tier, right side.
My oldest daughter and I were in the first row center of the top balcony. If I didn't fear getting pushed over the railing, I would have said something to the jerk behind us...but he happened to be right about the mix.
And no encore? For the amount of money I paid for tickets, there should've been an encore.
True. I saw Al Green here last Friday night. The Reverend played 75 minutes exactly with no encore (but he absolutely slayed for those 75 minutes). So, no encore from Herbie wasn't a complete shock. It was a shock, however, to see him check his watch during "Chameleon". Say it ain't so, Herbie.
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#1962629 - 06/25/08 09:03 AM
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It was a shock, however, to see him check his watch during "Chameleon". Say it ain't so, Herbie.
I missed that, but they ended around 10:40. They had another 20 minutes to play.
I trust you dug the sound of the Fazioli, but what'd you think of the sounds he coaxed from the Oasys? I wasn't impressed -- that clav sound was really weak.
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#1962631 - 06/25/08 09:09 AM
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I was at the show, too, in the first tier, right side. It was a shock, however, to see him check his watch during "Chameleon". 
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#1962654 - 06/25/08 09:56 AM
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I saw Ornette, who's 78, earlier this year and he didn't check his watch. 
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#1962665 - 06/25/08 10:09 AM
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A large hole will be left in the whole of music when that Master exits the scene...
lucky you, to hear him
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#1962747 - 06/25/08 12:45 PM
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I saw Ornette, who's 78, earlier this year and he didn't check his watch.
Yeah, I don't think Ornette ever checks his watch (he has different priorities there.)
But checking a watch isn't that bad. It's easy to lose track of where you are in a set.
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#1962756 - 06/25/08 01:13 PM
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i saw Paul Bley some years ago and he was checkin' his watch too during a Gary Peackock solo! So sad...
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#1962763 - 06/25/08 01:29 PM
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Here; maybe THIS will make you feel better. 
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#1962771 - 06/25/08 01:53 PM
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Well, even the Dalai Lama wears a watch (whether he ever checks it or leaves that to assistants, I dunno)...
The main thing that I find of interest...& I know music is as subjective as anything can be...is what's with the disc of Joni Mitchell material ?!
She's OK, & I actually like some of her stuff, but to me it's the worst thing since she tried to co-opt the Mingus legacy.
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#1962815 - 06/25/08 03:38 PM
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Herbie made a decision long ago to tap into different musics- that's the explanation. It has to do with reaching "wider audiences" as well.
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#1963434 - 06/26/08 11:42 PM
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Perhaps Herbie was using it to check a tempo (kinda of a handy trick in loo of a metronome) Or maybe he was simply trying to figure out if he had room in the program for another epic tune!!!
He is so incredibly generous with his playing!
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#1963465 - 06/27/08 03:30 AM
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I'd rather listen to Herbie when he checks his watch, than watch a dozen more 'professional' musicians. 
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#1963488 - 06/27/08 04:24 AM
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He is so incredibly generous with his playing!
Ditto
And when i spent a full week seeing him five nights in a row
At the end of the gigs, he would stand by the piano and answer all manner of personal musical questions- "what voicing"? etc, and HUMBLY too!!
I really admire him- A true genius- he is deep into the social level, the music level, and making a very good living that in turn helps others. A real force for good.
When I thought I would see him in his green room, i approached the slightly ajar door and his head was slightly down in prayer. I made an about face!!
He is really close to my absolute ideal musician.
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#1963503 - 06/27/08 04:56 AM
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The "checking the watch" thing got a little out of proportion to the whole.
For me, it was just about worth the price of 2 tickets to have my kid hear the band blow mightily on "Cantaloupe Island", a tune she's been playing since Jr high school jazz ensemble but taken to a supreme level.
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