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#1961631 - 06/23/08 06:18 AM Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do)
thanny XIII
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So, The stickered up defretted p bass in my avatar has been lying dormant for half a year at least.I did recently add back the old pickups in a bridge position. But all my pots are fried and my pickguards screws are gone.

So tomorrow is payday so i'm thinking it is time to make the thing play again. It's my first bass and has a TON of personality.

I want to put a blend knob in that much I know. Other than that i'm up in the air. i have room for four knobs due to some ingenious drill work on my part. lol. I kinda want to go active but i don't have the pickups for such a thing. can i do blend/ volume/tone/tone and have each tone knob affect the pickups seperately? Any suggeastions on an electronics config? I can afford about fourty bucks but thats about it.

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#1961659 - 06/23/08 07:15 AM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: thanny XIII]
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Nathaniel

what a lovely sounding project.

Re-spray an option? Get a weathered respray and an Audere pre-amp installed (say with Mast vol/blend/treble/mid/bass) with a pickguard of your choice and you would have a very tasty little number on your hands. Plenty of Mojo if you make a 60's or 70's replica.

That would be great.
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#1961660 - 06/23/08 07:19 AM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: Davo-London]
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Ah, read the question. 40 bucks. OK delete my last post. Pots and electronics off ebay. Can you find a bass that has the configuration that you want? Probably not.

Master vol/blend/tone/tone isn't an obvious fit. Anyone help?

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#1961700 - 06/23/08 08:58 AM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: Davo-London]
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Lots of wiring diagrams can be found here such as this this one.

Here are some more


Edited by jeremy c (06/23/08 09:00 AM)
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#1961711 - 06/23/08 09:14 AM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: jeremy c]
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Volume, Volume, Tone, Tone. Much better than a blend pot.Simple wiring, maximum control. MIM pups off of Ebay, all for under $40
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#1961722 - 06/23/08 09:35 AM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: Rocky MacDougall]
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Have a look at the pre-amps in http://www.artecsound.com

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#1961788 - 06/23/08 11:33 AM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: GeoffB]
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K so i can't find prices on those pres geoff but it is an interesting idea. I'm really thinking or going active with this. Does anyone know the average price for a three band eq? Either active or being able to make one pickup trebly and the other bassy would be cool.
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#1962355 - 06/24/08 03:44 PM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: thanny XIII]
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Hey so does anyone know of an onboard pre for under $100? I have more than i expected
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#1962362 - 06/24/08 03:56 PM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: thanny XIII]
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Artec

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Artec-Guitar-and-B...id=p3286.c0.m14

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#1962367 - 06/24/08 04:21 PM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: GeoffB]
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I did a pickup blend with an old passive pu'd jazz bass years ago. For the blend pot make sure you use a linear taper pot not an audio taper as most volume controls are. Rolloff will be smoother. A trade off with pickup blend knobs is the volume drops as you blend because your essentially turning down both pickups. Perhaps what Rocky suggests might be an easier way to go.
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#1962931 - 06/25/08 11:00 PM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: b5pilot]
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ok so i gave up on the whole active thing for multiple reasons. but I oreder enough parts to have a blend knob a swith to put either pickup all the way on or all the way off and to have a volume and tone. I'm excited!

Edited by thanny XIII (06/28/08 10:27 AM)
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#1963898 - 06/28/08 10:31 AM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: thanny XIII]
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So how would I make this switch work? I know ity needs to go before the blend knob, but what pickup wires shall i put where? the bottom of the switch looks like = = = with ecah line being a little metal lug. It is an on/on/on swutch and i want to make it so the first position turns the neck pickup on only then the second position would have them both at full then the third would have only the bridge one on. and i want the blend knob to work when the switch is in the middle position so that i can have different combonations of on.
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#1963918 - 06/28/08 12:09 PM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: thanny XIII]
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You need a schematic to follow. I think Jeremy gave you a link to some. Take the time to download the proper one. This is not something anyone can explain to you on the Forum.
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#1963947 - 06/28/08 01:34 PM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: Rocky MacDougall]
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Having both a three way switch and a blend knob will lead to situations where you don't have any output at all. At least with any configuration I can think of with what you have got there.
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#1963958 - 06/28/08 02:23 PM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: RHINO_ROB]
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http://www.guitarelectronics.com/

I'm not exactly sure what you're after, but they have about a scudzillion wiring schematics on that site for free. You're problem seems to be that you don't have a diagram or schematic for the pot you currently have.
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#1963972 - 06/28/08 03:26 PM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: Frank M]
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You don't need a switch with a blend pot.
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#1964118 - 06/29/08 10:26 AM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: TimR]
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Sounds like you might be trying too hard. Remember that the more stuff you put in there, the more issues you could create. There is no sense in making things redundant, i.e. a switch and a blend pot. For what you want, if you run a 3 way switch, plus vol/vol/ tone/tone,you should be able to get any combinaton you want.
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#1964128 - 06/29/08 11:19 AM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: 5 string Mike]
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Here are my suggestions for some unique and simple wiring layout.

1)
Master Volume
Master Tone
Three Way switch (neck pickup, both pickups, bridge pickup).

2)
no pots at all.
one on-off switch.
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#1964157 - 06/29/08 01:21 PM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: jeremy c]
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I had 4 holes in my fanken fretless. I can't even remember where the fourth hole came from! It may have had Vol, Vol, Switch, Tone. I tried to mod it to Vol/Vol, but I think the PUs were so badly matched that it was really difficult to control. I ended up with Volume, Blend, Tone and WDTKD* controls.

*People ask "What Does That Knob Do?" It's for controlling the amount of TimRness**. \:o

**Actually it doesn't do anything but a good job of hiding the hole. ;\)
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#1964159 - 06/29/08 01:32 PM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: TimR]
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From the site Frank M suggested:
Vol, Vol, Switch, Tone.
http://www.guitarelectronics.com/product/WDUHH3T2101
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#1964295 - 06/29/08 11:07 PM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: b5pilot]
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 Originally Posted By: b5pilot
I did a pickup blend with an old passive pu'd jazz bass years ago. For the blend pot make sure you use a linear taper pot not an audio taper as most volume controls are. Rolloff will be smoother. A trade off with pickup blend knobs is the volume drops as you blend because your essentially turning down both pickups. Perhaps what Rocky suggests might be an easier way to go.


Thanks b5pilot, that's what happened when I had my PJ pups installed VOL/TONE/BLEND. The volume dropped lower with the blend knob in the center postion. I was kinda bummed when that happened. I like the tone of the middle blend position, but don't care for the drop in volume. VOL/VOL/TONE is probably the best way to go.


Edited by jlrush (06/29/08 11:12 PM)
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#1967049 - 07/07/08 10:16 AM Re: Electronics in my crazy franken p (whatever shall i do) [Re: jlrush]
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So i vol/vol/tone and three way switched it. It's nice. the bridge pickup is crappy and i managed to put the switch so it's backwards (flipped toward the bridge it engages the neck and vise versa.) I'll eventually add a new bridge pickup.

For some reason the bridge works when solo'd but not when both pickups are on. I'll live with it for now becasue opening the thing involves tape (decorative but functional.) But i was curious as to what causes/ could cause it's little malfunction.

on a different note, i' m refurbing a peavey g****r. I'm going to spray it black and eventually replace the pickguard assembly. Also i'll set it up right and i'll clean and oil the fingerboard and strip and tung oil the neck.

Pictures to follow at some point!
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