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#1953014 - 06/04/08 11:59 AM Removing a nut
cool9
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I'd like to know how to remove a nut cleanly w/o taking some of the neck with it. And what tools are the best to use? It is a new maple Fender neck.
BTW, I was told by a Luthier to go with a graphite nut over a roller nut anyday.
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#1953020 - 06/04/08 12:15 PM Re: Removing a nut [Re: cool9]
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My luthier loved bone for many years, until GraphTech came around. Then he explored the product and has put GraphTech nuts and sadles on a couple of my instruments.

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#1953029 - 06/04/08 12:35 PM Re: Removing a nut [Re: cool9]
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 Originally Posted By: cool9
I'd like to know how to remove a nut..


Sorry, but I can NOT be kicked off of this forum without due cause!

Seriously though, FWIW, a guitar tech recently told me that the graphite nuts and saddles are dull and crummy sounding compared to bone nut and metal saddles.

I haven't done that listening test personally though.
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#1953032 - 06/04/08 12:37 PM Re: Removing a nut [Re: Bejeeber]
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I suggest a surgeon... But why would you want to remove a nut unless a doctor already tol.... er, what??

OHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Different nut! (That was close!)
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#1953045 - 06/04/08 12:49 PM Re: Removing a nut [Re: fantasticsound]
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Our dog has had 2 removed...
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#1953050 - 06/04/08 12:55 PM Re: Removing a nut [Re: Bejeeber]
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Finallly....I'm needed here....

OK....FIRST, score around the edges of the nut with a FRESH exacto or utility knife blade...just enough to cut the surface of the finish.

THEN, you will need a pair of end nippers, properly ground( these have had the cutting edge ground flat on the face). You grab the nut and GENTLY rock back and forth until the glue joint breaks...sometimes the nut breaks too...and then GENTLY lift the nut out of the slot. THIS IS A VERY DELICATE operation. It's extremely easy to break that little ledge of wood behind the nut when doing this. CAUTION is called for. It's a good idea to have a 1/8" or smaller "chisel" on hand to finish cleaning the slot.

An "open" sided nut is much easier to deal with.
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#1953072 - 06/04/08 01:21 PM Re: Removing a nut [Re: dave251]
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That's one of the few things I leave to the pros.
That...and neck adjustment.

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#1953084 - 06/04/08 01:52 PM Re: Removing a nut [Re: Strategery]
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 Originally Posted By: dave251
Finallly....I'm needed here....

OK....FIRST, score around the edges of the nut with a FRESH exacto or utility knife blade...just enough to cut the surface of the finish.

THEN, you will need a pair of end nippers, properly ground( these have had the cutting edge ground flat on the face). You grab the nut and GENTLY rock back and forth until the glue joint breaks...sometimes the nut breaks too...and then GENTLY lift the nut out of the slot. THIS IS A VERY DELICATE operation. It's extremely easy to break that little ledge of wood behind the nut when doing this. CAUTION is called for. It's a good idea to have a 1/8" or smaller "chisel" on hand to finish cleaning the slot.

An "open" sided nut is much easier to deal with.




I've swapped out a couple....and that's the procedure as outlined above by Dave.

And yeah...when you have the Exacto knife in your hand...and you are ready to score the edges...it's a little scary at first,
…but if you have a steady hand...it's not a big deal.

Just make small moves and take your time…and don't fight with it too hard…’cuz that’s when stuff breaks.
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#1953092 - 06/04/08 02:13 PM Re: Removing a nut [Re: miroslav]
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 Originally Posted By: miroslav
...make small moves & take your time…and don’t fight with it too hard…’cuz that’s when stuff breaks.
And perhaps a pair of magnifying glasses wouldn't be a half bad idea. They don't cost that much at pharmacies and the like.

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#1953113 - 06/04/08 02:40 PM Re: Removing a nut [Re: BrianWren]
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 Originally Posted By: BrianWren
And perhaps a pair of magnifying glasses....


I don't have the glasses...but I do have one of those fluorescent lights w/adjustable arm mounted to a table. It has a large magnifying glass in the center of the light. I can place a guitar one the table and use it for small, intricate work.
Heck...you can pretty much see even the small burrs on the string saddles with its magnification and bright light.
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#1953117 - 06/04/08 02:52 PM Re: Removing a nut [Re: miroslav]
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There is virtually no finish on the neck so maybe I can try to jiggle it out slowly.
The Graph Tech nuts are supposed to release lubricant on the strings and I don't want to end up with too much lubricant all over the strings which then ends up on the fretboard.
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#1953162 - 06/04/08 04:19 PM Re: Removing a nut [Re: cool9]
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 Originally Posted By: cool9
The Graph Tech nuts are supposed to release lubricant on the strings and I don't want to end up with too much lubricant all over the strings which then ends up on the fretboard.


Don't worry, the 'releasing lubricant' action happens pretty much literally on a microscopic level; it won't leave liquid residue or dust or anything like that on things, it just feels slick and slippery sorta like Teflon, pencil-lead, or graphite.

A lot of makers use Graph Tech or similar graphite-composite nuts and saddles; and a good friend of mine, who's very picky about tone and plays a lot of pricey boutique and vintage gear, uses Graph Tech bridge-saddles. He used to break strings all the time; now he almost never does, thanks largely to those saddles, while his tone is excellent and his strings don't have any residual goo released on 'em!
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