Because it's Henry Kaiser!?

Sure looks like one of those joke vids to me. The sounds don't correspond to the fingerings, and $20.00 yard sale guitars sound better than that one.

Here is the intro to that video.

Henry Kaiser is an experimental musician. I don't think it's right to bash he's doing if isn't to your taste.

The large fellow playing the blue guitar IS Howard Dumble. so I don't think he's too upset about Henry's sound.

Here is the intro to that video.

Henry Kaiser is an experimental musician. I don't think it's right to bash he's doing if isn't to your taste.

The large fellow playing the blue guitar IS Howard Dumble. so I don't think he's too upset about Henry's sound.

Dude's just following his muse...

I don't know why they didn't go for a different, better take there; I mean, going out on a tight-rope "without a net" and doing off-the-cuff, off-the wall things during live improvisation is one thing, but a planned, paced video like this is another!

Here is the intro to that video.

Henry Kaiser is an experimental musician. I don't think it's right to bash he's doing if isn't to your taste.

The large fellow playing the blue guitar IS Howard Dumble. so I don't think he's too upset about Henry's sound.

Exactly.



Who's to say what a "better" take is? The point is the pursuit and experiment.

Thats why I was so surprised that Dumble would play along with this guy. We all know dumble amps have excellent tone, and this guy takes that tone and totally f***s it up.

Here is the intro to that video.

Henry Kaiser is an experimental musician. I don't think it's right to bash he's doing if isn't to your taste.

The large fellow playing the blue guitar IS Howard Dumble. so I don't think he's too upset about Henry's sound.

Define "excellent tone". Whatever you say is just an opinion, and who's to say it's wrong?

For that matter the "excellent tone" for one type of music may be useless for another style. The only time I'll criticize tonal choices is if I think that it isn't appropriate to the music being played. If somebody tries playing Santana tunes with a weedy Rockman-no-sustain tone, I'll say that isn't really serving the genre they're chasing. But Kaiser can do whatever he wants.

He was introduced as Alexander Dumble - same guy?

You were talking with some intelligence and wisdom Bill... then you posted that last comment and blew your own logic to smithereens!



Bill... wouldn't you say that's just your opinion of how someone should cover a genre or even someone else's song?

I've heard Henry Kaiser produce sounds for 20 years any some of it I'd term music, some of it I'd call noise. Anyone who believes his "noise" is music is welcome to it, but I'll be glad to voice my opinon that I think it stinks.

I highly doubt Henry Kaiser, himself, gives a thought to my opinion though.

I do NOT give anyone quarter for bad tone because they're "experimental" musicians. I've heard Henry Kaiser produce sounds for 20 years any some of it I'd term music, some of it I'd call noise. Anyone who believes his "noise" is music is welcome to it, but I'll be glad to voice my opinon that I think it stinks.

I don't feel Henry Kaiser's tone really supports his musical direction in the same way as Cline's & Ribot's does. But again, it's really a personal thing & I have strong tone preferences that I bring to the issue of the quality of noise or extended sound pallets.

Scott Fraser

Henry Kaiser is an experimental musician. I don't think it's right to bash he's doing if isn't to your taste.

......As long it's your opinion that an artistic work stinks, I'm okay with that.

Okay then. Henry Kaiser's artistic work in that video stinks. Bad. Really bad.

Since I work entirely in the experimental genre I have to say that the standards for tone are certainly much looser or open for interpretation than in other styles. Still, you're going to like some & not others. I've seen Kaiser a number of times & engineered a live album of his long ago, & I have to say, though I respect his work, his tone doesn't really do a lot for me. There are other guitar experimenters, like Nels Cline, who go much further out & into a lot more pure noise, yet still maintain what I consider gorgeous tone. It's all personal preference. Marc Ribot is another excellent guitarist, who gets into some very experimental territory, yet he always plays under $100 Teisco-ish cheapy guitars with weird tone & practically no sustain at all. It's his sound, but he makes wonderful music with it. I don't feel Henry Kaiser's tone really supports his musical direction in the same way as Cline's & Ribot's does. But again, it's really a personal thing & I have strong tone preferences that I bring to the issue of the quality of noise or extended sound pallets.

Scott Fraser