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#1947625 - 05/25/08 03:17 PM Marshall MG100DFX 112 (now with full demo)
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So this weekend, I was doing some late spring/early summer cleaning and I came across a Marshall 100DFX 112 that I had shunned to the basement a while ago, so I plugged it in and I was shocked at how great it sounded. No, it's not your "tube killer" but it does sound great considering the price. IIRC, it cost about 450 a couple of years ago.

Anyway, it's got 4 modes, Clean/Crunch, OD1/OD2 with 5 effects. FYI, the effects are a little sub-par, but for a beginner, it shouldn't matter. And how would this topic be complete without clips? ;\) (ignore any sloppy playing, it's a hasty recording; it's just my SG just straight in. 1st section is on the clean, 2nd is on the OD1 channel):

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#1947633 - 05/25/08 03:25 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Zephyr]
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Zephyr.....that is most excellent!!! Great tone, fat on the cleans, and channeling Angus on the dirty. I don't see how you'd need another amp, unless you just want one that is..... \:\)

Great Playing too. How long have you been playing??
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#1947635 - 05/25/08 03:28 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Zephyr]
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Sounds really good - even on this little speaker on the laptop I am on - I can only imagine how good it sounds in person. Oh, and Little Wing, Back in Black, and Moby Dick - all great choices to give us a sample!
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#1947636 - 05/25/08 03:30 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Zephyr]
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I love finding amps I forgot I had...
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#1947639 - 05/25/08 03:32 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: mdrs]
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 Originally Posted By: mdrs
Zephyr.....that is most excellent!!! Great tone, fat on the cleans, and channeling Angus on the dirty. I don't see how you'd need another amp, unless you just want one that is..... \:\)

Great Playing too. How long have you been playing??


About 3 1/4 years, I really wish I had started earlier, but for reasons unknown, I didn't. And I should be practicing a lot more, but whatever, I'm content at the moment.

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#1947650 - 05/25/08 03:43 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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 Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite
I love finding amps I forgot I had...

I just wish I could find the ones I know I had. \:\(

And... the real reason I posted here... what the heck does "IIRC" mean. I've seen it several times here lately. I keep thinkin' IROC and all I can see are Camaros.


PS: Oh, and not to "hijack" this thread, Zephyr, but is there actually a "Beginer's Amp List"? IF not... maybe we should start one? And one for low power tube practice amps maybe? They seem to be the two subjects on amps that come up the most. I've pretty much made my decision, so it's not personally motivated.


Edited by Dave da Dude (05/25/08 04:03 PM)
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#1947652 - 05/25/08 03:47 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Dave da Dude]
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#1947653 - 05/25/08 03:48 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Dave da Dude]
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Nice Zeph, it was a fun listen. How 'bout a pic of the amp?
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#1947654 - 05/25/08 03:51 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Guitar Slinger]
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I don't have my own camera
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#1947662 - 05/25/08 04:05 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Zephyr]
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Zephyr, thanks.
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#1947697 - 05/25/08 06:12 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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 Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite
I love finding amps I forgot I had...


LMAO!!! +1 \:\)
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#1947698 - 05/25/08 06:14 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: mdrs]
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 Originally Posted By: mdrs
 Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite
I love finding amps I forgot I had...


LMAO!!! +1 \:\)


LOL!! and I bet the good Doctor knows exactly what you mean!!! \:\)

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#1947700 - 05/25/08 06:17 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Dr. Ellwood]
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 Originally Posted By: Dr. Ellwood
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I love finding amps I forgot I had...


LMAO!!! +1 \:\)


LOL!! and I bet the good Doctor knows exactly what you mean!!! \:\)


It's my "old timer's disease" creeping in....

I've taken pics of all the amps, so as to, er, assist my memory!!!

\:D
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#1947713 - 05/25/08 06:57 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: mdrs]
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Nice clip, Zephyr! Nice playing! Good selections!

As for my found, forgotten amps-

The great thing is, of the ones that I had literally forgotten that I had- different people GAVE a couple to me, and I bought one cheap to do the seller a favor when he needed money and nobody else was interested or would have given him even as much- and now, years later, they're "vintage"... !! \:D

One is a late '50s or early '60s Harmony, a little combo somewhat comparable to a Champ in a bigger, cheesy cabinet, with an 8" or 10" Jensen speaker in it. Opie had one just like it in an episode of The Andy Griffith Show- just like it, except if you look closely, it had no guts in it! \:D A "dummy" combo-cab, no chassis, for a prop. Mine actually sounded great, but curently needs new tubes, and two or three of its five or six tubes are oddballs.

(You may wonder how an amp that is sorta like a Champ has so many tubes- and you'd be right to wonder; it's due to the oddball single-triode tubes it uses, as opposed to the double-triodes that are far more commonly called for- like 12AX7s, 12AY7's, and 12AT7's... )

Another is a late '50s or early '60s Silvertone that a previous owner had converted from being a 1x12 combo into being a "head". It's description reads like a boutique bombshell's- low-wattage, uses a duet of 6V6's, tube-rectifier, foot-switchable tube-tremolo, tiny little easily overtaxed and saturated power and output transformers, iron-core inductor filter-choke (looks kinda like a little two-lead transformer), point-to-point wiring, aluminum chassis, funky all-wood cabinet with beveled-edges around the face that look a lot like an inverted picture-frame (actually stock and original on this Silvertone model)... reads like a boutique-amp except for the price- FREE. I've never heard it, it is out of order and I never got around to fixing it, or paying a real pro to fix it. I'm sure that it IS fixable, though, and I bet it'll sound killer for Blues, R&B, and rootsier R&R...

The third, I paid someone fifty bucks for years ago; it's an old Traynor bass head that runs at about sixty watts with a duet of 6CA7's (think, American version of EL34 on steroids; EVH is supposed to have had these in his Marshall in his tonal Glory Days when recording the first two or three albums or so) that will someday become a guitar and baritone-guitar monster. The former owner used to get drunk and amuse himself making sparks by sticking a screwdriver in the back of the amp, plugged-in, turned-on... it's a wonder he didn't kill himself. The amp actually sounded pretty riiipin' for guitar, capable of both wild distortion and tight but Mammoth clean and medium-gain overdrive tones. Think sort of baby Ampeg SVT crossed with a Marshall. I'll probably look into having it somewhat modded or tweaked by Andy Fuchs, with baritone-guitar and guitar in mind, and likely pair it with a Fuchs tuned, ported, 2x12 cab with EVs in it...
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#1947716 - 05/25/08 07:02 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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Is that Traynor a BassMaster YBA-1??
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#1947723 - 05/25/08 07:19 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: mdrs]
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Why, did a drunken lout with a screwdriver and a Jazz Bass steal one from ya years ago, Don? ;\) \:D

It's a Bass Master- don't remember if it said "YBA-1" (or what, or anything) on the schematics screened on the sheet-metal panel that sits over the top of the chassis inside the cabinetry, but I kinda seem to recall arriving at that designation once before, casually researching it a few years ago. (Seems like longer ago than it actually has been!)

Says, "Traynor Bass Master Amp" under the Standby-switch and pilot-lamp on the left of the front control-panel; has four inputs, marked "I" and "II"; Vol. I, Vol. II, Treble, Bass, and two controls under the designation "Range Expander", marked beneath as "Low" and "High"; then Standby-On/Off and the pilot-lamp. Visually, it looks kinda like a cross between "blackface" Fender and earlier vintage Marshall.
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#1947748 - 05/25/08 08:34 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: mdrs]
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 Originally Posted By: mdrs

It's my "old timer's disease" creeping in....

I've taken pics of all the amps, so as to, er, assist my memory!!!

\:D

The stage before that "old timer's disease" is C.R.S. Can't Remember... Sssss... tuff. ;\)
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#1947779 - 05/25/08 10:11 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Dave da Dude]
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Nice job on Little Wing Zephyr.
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#1947783 - 05/25/08 10:31 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Hardtail]
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btw Zephyr, I'm not being rude. It's just that I don't have any sound on my computer. Longggg... story.

Maybe tomorrow I'll download it and burn it to CD and then offer an informed opinion. ;\) \:D
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#1947784 - 05/25/08 10:35 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Dave da Dude]
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 Originally Posted By: Dave da Dude
btw Zephyr, I'm not being rude. It's just that I don't have any sound on my computer. Longggg... story.

Maybe tomorrow I'll download it and burn it to CD and then offer an informed opinion. ;\) \:D


Well, thanks for the honesty, but this wasn't about my playing abilities, this was about a basement amp jem that could be a wonderful tone device for novices.
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#1947785 - 05/25/08 10:41 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Zephyr]
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 Originally Posted By: Zephyr
 Originally Posted By: Dave da Dude
btw Zephyr, I'm not being rude. It's just that I don't have any sound on my computer. Longggg... story.

Maybe tomorrow I'll download it and burn it to CD and then offer an informed opinion. ;\) \:D


Well, thanks for the honesty, but this wasn't about my playing abilities, this was about a basement amp jem that could be a wonderful tone device for novices.


In all honesty, I liked your playing better than the amp. I've played that amp before and it's a good practice amp.

However, I played that (or a bigger version of that) once during a band practice and wanted to put my Les Paul through it.... but that would have been a waste of a good Les Paul.

Anyway, I like your playing... you are a "player" and on your way. Keep it up!

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#1947789 - 05/25/08 10:58 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Hardtail]
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 Originally Posted By: Zephyr
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btw Zephyr, I'm not being rude. It's just that I don't have any sound on my computer. Longggg... story.

Maybe tomorrow I'll download it and burn it to CD and then offer an informed opinion. ;\) \:D


Well, thanks for the honesty, but this wasn't about my playing abilities, this was about a basement amp jem that could be a wonderful tone device for novices.


In all honesty, I liked your playing better than the amp. I've played that amp before and it's a good practice amp.

However, I played that (or a bigger version of that) once during a band practice and wanted to put my Les Paul through it.... but that would have been a waste of a good Les Paul.

Anyway, I like your playing... you are a "player" and on your way. Keep it up!


Aww shux HT, you're making a modest guy blush
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#1947790 - 05/25/08 11:08 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Zephyr]
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HAY, your on your way Zephyr! keep at the woodshedding your a player like HT said, and he knows what he's talking about!!
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#1947815 - 05/26/08 03:43 AM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Dr. Ellwood]
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Nice stuff Zeph I still haven't cracked Little Wing and BOY have I tried.
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#1947816 - 05/26/08 04:01 AM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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 Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite
I love finding amps I forgot I had...


I've just looked all over the house and didn't find any!
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#1947849 - 05/26/08 06:35 AM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Kramer Ferrington III.]
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I'd like to apologize for sorta hijacking your thread a little back there, Zephyr! Forgive me, the 'finding put-aside/forgotten amps around the house'-thing was just too much for me!

I'm on dial-up here where I'm at right now, and for some reason, only so much of the clip you first posted here would play- a clean-toned rendition of the opening, signature-lines of Little Wing, cut-off. Was there supposed to be more- including the OD-1 overdrive-channel of that Marshall- on the same clip? Or was I supposed to find that on another clip, listed there on Soundclick?
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#1947879 - 05/26/08 07:49 AM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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 Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite
I'd like to apologize for sorta hijacking your thread a little back there, Zephyr! Forgive me, the 'finding put-aside/forgotten amps around the house'-thing was just too much for me!

I'm on dial-up here where I'm at right now, and for some reason, only so much of the clip you first posted here would play- a clean-toned rendition of the opening, signature-lines of Little Wing, cut-off. Was there supposed to be more- including the OD-1 overdrive-channel of that Marshall- on the same clip? Or was I supposed to find that on another clip, listed there on Soundclick?


There's two sections:

1) Little wing on clean
2) Back In Black and Moby Dick with a classic Marshall overdrive



If it doesn't work just imagine those songs with a couple of "burps" in there and you'll have the idea.


Edited by Zephyr (05/26/08 08:03 AM)
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#1948176 - 05/26/08 07:19 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Zephyr]
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That pic works just fine. I remember when that amp came out. Isn't is solid state? It sounds really good.
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#1948545 - 05/27/08 09:49 AM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Guitar Slinger]
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That pic works just fine. I remember when that amp came out. Isn't is solid state? It sounds really good.


Yes, it is solid state, and believe it or not, the master volume trick makes it sound a lot better too.
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#1951027 - 05/31/08 01:48 PM Re: Time to add a new amp to that beginner list [Re: Zephyr]
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Okay everyone, if you liked that one, I've deleted the old one, and I just did a full demo complete with clean, effects, overdrive, very few mistakes (that's right I did some editing) and you even get to hear my voice! \:D

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Hope you enjoy it!
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