#1945748 - 05/21/08 06:07 PM
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That's too bad that he fell back into any of that again. Not hard to do, though; not exactly easy not-to.
Feeling good is not the same as being happy. The first is temporary and only so deep; the latter has more longevity and depth. And there's always a point of decision where one chooses to go one way, or another.
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#1946179 - 05/22/08 01:52 PM
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Hmmm.....Clapton needs to go sort his a$$ out!
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#1946194 - 05/22/08 02:07 PM
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If I remember back when the whole band went to the land of sobriety, Tyler said they ALL had to sign a contract stating that if anyone relapsed they were OUT of Aerosmith... Wonder how that's gonna' work out?
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#1946198 - 05/22/08 02:15 PM
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If I remember back when the whole band went to the land of sobriety, Tyler said they ALL had to sign a contract stating that if anyone relapsed they were OUT of Aerosmith... Wonder how that's gonna' work out?
I think that Aerosmith used to do AA meetings daily while touring.
Alcoholism sucks. It's always there. One wrong choice, and it's the slippery slope. And, when you fall off the wagon, you typically go right back to being as bad as you were when you had stopped drinking previously.
I don't envy anyone who has the disease. I pray for all addicts to find the strength to keep clean and healthy.
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#1946199 - 05/22/08 02:17 PM
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I was sad to see this in the news. Steve has always been very open about his addiction and recovery. I was able to meet him and the rest of the band on a couple of occasions. Steve and I had a short moment of sobriety talk. I will never forget it. I am sure when he comes out of this he will be even stronger and vocal about what went on. Robin Williams went back to drinking after 20 years sober, we are humans and it's what people with addictions do. Some recover, some never do, some fall and make it again. My prayers and thoughts are with him. It's not the greatest thing when the entire world knows that you messed up but he will overcome this I believe.
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#1946217 - 05/22/08 02:48 PM
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I wish him the best.
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#1946228 - 05/22/08 03:15 PM
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Dewd looks like a lady.   Is everything a joke? Gets tiresome and predictable doesn't it.
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#1946231 - 05/22/08 03:19 PM
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If I remember back when the whole band went to the land of sobriety, Tyler said they ALL had to sign a contract stating that if anyone relapsed they were OUT of Aerosmith... Wonder how that's gonna' work out? I think that Aerosmith used to do AA meetings daily while touring. Alcoholism sucks. It's always there. One wrong choice, and it's the slippery slope. And, when you fall off the wagon, you typically go right back to being as bad as you were when you had stopped drinking previously. I don't envy anyone who has the disease. I pray for all addicts to find the strength to keep clean and healthy.
Doc... I didn't mean anything malicious by my post... I just remembered that taking place and I remember Steven saying it was a binding notorized contract... I've lost my share of friends and family to drugs and liquor and I was close myself at one point... I wish him the best... as I wish the homeless dude who hangs out on the corner by my house and the businessman who is a complete functional alchoholic and the housewife strung out on vicodin or valium and anyone else with this desease...For every Steven Tyler there are 100,000 nameless faces out there who play no important role in my life... and those are the ones that tear me up the most...
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#1946235 - 05/22/08 03:22 PM
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I heard this on the news yesterday. It's terrible, but at least he is taking the steps to get back on the wagon.
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#1946245 - 05/22/08 03:28 PM
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... as I wish the homeless dude who hangs out on the corner by my house and the businessman who is a complete functional alchoholic and the housewife strung out on vicodin or valium and anyone else with this desease...For every Steven Tyler there are 100,000 nameless faces out there who play no important role in my life... and those are the ones that tear me up the most...
And I most certainly did not mean to minimize the faceless ones. I just meant that it becomes easier, imho, to give into a addiction when famous. The money is there, and people almost expect it with the "rawker" image, i.e. Keith Richards.
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#1946246 - 05/22/08 03:28 PM
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Man I hate to see a guy fall down like that again. Hope he can get up & get back in the saddle again.
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#1946247 - 05/22/08 03:28 PM
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If I remember back when the whole band went to the land of sobriety, Tyler said they ALL had to sign a contract stating that if anyone relapsed they were OUT of Aerosmith... Wonder how that's gonna' work out? I think that Aerosmith used to do AA meetings daily while touring. Alcoholism sucks. It's always there. One wrong choice, and it's the slippery slope. And, when you fall off the wagon, you typically go right back to being as bad as you were when you had stopped drinking previously. I don't envy anyone who has the disease. I pray for all addicts to find the strength to keep clean and healthy. Doc... I didn't mean anything malicious by my post... I just remembered that taking place and I remember Steven saying it was a binding notorized contract... I've lost my share of friends and family to drugs and liquor and I was close myself at one point... I wish him the best... as I wish the homeless dude who hangs out on the corner by my house and the businessman who is a complete functional alchoholic and the housewife strung out on vicodin or valium and anyone else with this desease...For every Steven Tyler there are 100,000 nameless faces out there who play no important role in my life... and those are the ones that tear me up the most...
Hey Billy....I didn't read anything negative in your comment, and didn't post to respond to you in any negative way. I know you have a good heart, man.
And, your comments here are amazingly right on. I couldn't have said it as well as you just did.
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#1946253 - 05/22/08 03:39 PM
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I'm a happy person, what can I say?
Dewd looks like a lady...is part of one of their songs.
Just went to an old friends funeral the other week that drank herself to death...literally.
She was 42.
I just find it hard to be worried about a person of privilege going to rehab...again.
Of course we all wish them the best...but many times when we have to deal with the big things in life...a little humor can help to take you a long way.
Nothing more than that was intended.
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#1946260 - 05/22/08 03:58 PM
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Randy,
We ALL appreciate humor. But, not everything is always funny. Putting the humor out there too often takes the fun out of it.
Know what I mean?
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#1946262 - 05/22/08 04:04 PM
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I just find it hard to be worried about a person of privilege going to rehab...again.
The guy earned his money... busted his ass for it.
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#1946264 - 05/22/08 04:09 PM
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Hilton is privileged, Kennedy is privileged, a rock musician that started out playing bars is NOT.
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#1946268 - 05/22/08 04:17 PM
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Hilton is privileged, Kennedy is privileged, a rock musician that started out playing bars is NOT.
Good point Ellwood.
I love Aerosmith, always have and I hope Steven comes through this with flying colors.
Remember when John Entwistle died a few years back from a Cocain overdose? That was such a sad day and I remember thinking then how much can an old body can take before it just gives up. I'd like Steven to stick around a while longer ya know?
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#1946309 - 05/22/08 06:27 PM
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My friend Rob was in detox with Steven years ago. If I remember correctly it was Danvers Detox. He told me a story about Tyler writing the lyrics to a song while there. I guess the detox had different wings, Steven's was the East House.
This to me would be the song.
Wake up baby, what you in for
Start the day upon your knees
What you pissin' in the wind for
You musta snorted too much blees
East house pinball wizard
Full tilt bozo played
Second floor trekkie
Makin' warp speed out the door
Julio Anpacolucci
He the only one who stayed
Countin' up the days
Please no more
My Fist Your Face
That's for sure
Hey Betty Boop you got me droolin'
I'm buzzin' 'round your hive tonight
You played the hooky 'stead of schoolin'
Son of a bitch put out the light
Thirteen year old hookers
Drag yourself right through the thorns
You wonder why the man's outside your door
Junior achievers, got the old bull by the horns
Back in the saddle get ya s'more (some more)
My Fist Your Face
That's for sure
Yeah!
East house pinball wizard
Full tilt bozo played
Second floor trekkie's
Makin' warp speed out the door
Julio Anpacolucci
He the only one that stayed
I'm countin' up the days
Please no more
Arr...My Fist Your Face
That's for sure
Oooowhoo...yeah
My Fist Your Face
That's for sure...or wor...ooowhoo
My Fist Your Face
That's for sure...oooh whoo
My Fist Your Face
That's for sure
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#1946312 - 05/22/08 06:34 PM
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Hey Billy....I didn't read anything negative in your comment, and didn't post to respond to you in any negative way.
Heck Doc... I know that... I just didn't want anyone to think I was being insensitive... It's just that we all feel it when someone 'famous' pops up on the radar and we tend to not give a second thought to that poor schmuck down the block or the guy that works next to us... I'm just as guilty as the next guy...
In some cases it's the 'carwreck' mentality... Alot of people love to see the mighty fall and 'Mrs. Smith' wouldn't be news if she falls off the wagon...
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#1946319 - 05/22/08 06:46 PM
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Truth, Ramp, truth.
Alcohol and drug addiction is a huge problem in our society. And our society doesn't do a particularly good job of dealing with it.
But, each of us can do our part, one step and one person at a time. It starts with compassion and understanding.
Life isn't easy. And, it's a lot tougher for addicts, their families, and their friends. It really affects us all, in some way.
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#1946548 - 05/23/08 07:55 AM
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Does anyone know if he actually fell off the wagon? I was wondering if maybe the cravings had started again and he checked himself in before anything actually happened. I guess I'm hoping for a positive angle to this, but then again knowing when to get help is as positive as it gets.
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#1946582 - 05/23/08 09:00 AM
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You guys are right, not everything is funny.
Not that humor doesn't have its place, but some of us get in the habit of reaching for a joke like an alcoholic reaches for a drink. You have given me food for thought.
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#1946588 - 05/23/08 09:11 AM
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If I remember back when the whole band went to the land of sobriety, Tyler said they ALL had to sign a contract stating that if anyone relapsed they were OUT of Aerosmith... Wonder how that's gonna' work out?
Why, was there plans to foist yet another treacle-drenched pile of dung on the unsuspecting public?
Christ, their last 3 albums were carbon copies of Pump. 
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#1946678 - 05/23/08 12:37 PM
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What I dont understand is the medical community agrees that adiction and Alcoholism are diseases but if you drive you break the law.
I had a friend who didn;t take his diabetic meds, passed out while driving, crossed lanes and slammed into another car. He wasn't charged because he was a diabetic,
Makes no sense,
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