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#1942522 - 05/15/08 10:21 AM Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one
dead mike
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Well im down a few guitars but i always wanted one of these, its better than i thought it would be. This the Setzer model.



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#1942525 - 05/15/08 10:32 AM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: dead mike]
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I think you are going to LOVE that Gretsch!! \:\)
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#1942579 - 05/15/08 12:33 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Dr. Ellwood]
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HOLY HOLLOWBODYS!!! That is beautiful....
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#1942584 - 05/15/08 12:47 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Rampdog]
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That guitar is the correct color as I am totally green with envy.

VERY nice!

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#1942624 - 05/15/08 02:02 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Mudcat]
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Schweedt! Absofrigalicious 'n' b!tch!n'.

That's got those TV Jones pickups innitt, right?

Maaaaan- an Orange Tiny Terror AND a li'l Reverend! That Gretsch's gotta sound killer through those two.

Is that red-rocketship Guild with the single-coils yours, as well, Mike? Damn!

Tell us some more about how the Gretsch sounds and plays, Mike!
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#1942641 - 05/15/08 02:29 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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The neck is unreal, its a v type like kind of like a jeff beck strat but twice as thin and real fast. with the v at the pom of your hand you can really dig into the neck and all the chords i had trouble with before are much easier. tv jones classics in it also. everytime i throw a switch i get a different sound, when i use the mud switch it actually sounds like a frieght train if that makes any sense. man i really pumped over this guitar.
thats my guild x-160 rockabilly with DeArmonds in the back ground, another sweet axe, more twang than the Gretsch and the Gretsch has got more ooomph and a fuller sound.

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#1942647 - 05/15/08 02:41 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: dead mike]
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A guitar like that green lovely will give you NEW LIFE, DEAD MIKE!!! LOL

It's a beauty. I've had GAS for a Gretch for a long time. YOU ARE NOT HELPING.............. \:\)

Congrats on the new guitar!!
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#1942649 - 05/15/08 02:44 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: mdrs]
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Oh yeah...very nice, very nice!

How do the two toggle switches work in conjunction with the three knobs...and the two PU's..?
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#1942751 - 05/15/08 06:49 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: miroslav]
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ok the tree knobs are all volume, the one under the pick guard is master , ther 2 at the back are for the individual pups. The 1 toggle is pup selection the other is adds bass or looses bass like a tone switch. it was weird to get use to but you can get alot of sounds.
it is giving me new life

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#1942756 - 05/15/08 06:56 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: dead mike]
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 Originally Posted By: dead mike
The 1 toggle is pup selection the other is adds bass or looses bass like a tone switch.


That's what I thought.

It's exactly how the standard Hagstrom Swedes are wired with the two toggles...though they have typical 2-volume, 2-tone knobs.

I love the tone toggle!
My original Swede and also the new reissue “standard” Swede have the extra tone toggle.
You don't have to mess with your tone knobs or even the amp all that much...you just set it for a nice "middle" tone...and then use the tone toggle for quick tone variations.
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#1942790 - 05/15/08 10:05 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: miroslav]
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I used to have a 72 Hag Viking that had the same thing. loved that guitar, old hagstroms had great colours and wicked necks, some dirtbag stole it from me.
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#1942830 - 05/16/08 03:57 AM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: dead mike]
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Hey Dead like Mike,

Congratulations! \:\)
That is one fine a$$ guitar! \:D

I've got a regular orange Nashville, non Brian Setzer model and its damn nice, but the one you have kicks a$$! \:\) \:D

We gots ta' hear some clips from that puppy! \:D

Enjoy...

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#1942897 - 05/16/08 07:12 AM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Strategery]
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I've got a thing about green guitars, too! \:D That is one SWEET axe! I love those big fat Gretsch's!! One of these days...it sure sucks tho, that you had to get rid of those Revs. You still have the Vito don't you?
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#1942901 - 05/16/08 07:18 AM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Greg B.]
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#1942942 - 05/16/08 08:27 AM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: dead mike]
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 Originally Posted By: dead mike
ok the tree knobs are all volume, the one under the pick guard is master , ther 2 at the back are for the individual pups. The 1 toggle is pup selection the other is adds bass or looses bass like a tone switch. it was weird to get use to but you can get alot of sounds.
it is giving me new life


I love the master volume on my Tennessean. Back when I gigged I set up a sound that was a blend of the two pick-ups as my primary tone (a little more of the treble pick-up than the neck pick-up) and used the master to raise and lower the volume. It also affected the tone a bit as it cut treble slightly when rolled down. It was great for going from rhythm to lead.

I have never come up with a practical application for the mud switch. \:\(

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#1942950 - 05/16/08 08:43 AM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Mudcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Mudcat


I have never come up with a practical application for the mud switch. \:\(


Do you mean the tone toggle?

On my Swede guitars, I like to use it when I have some growl set on the amp, but with good upper end clarity…and maybe using both PU’s, with the bridge PU set just a touch lower in volume.
Then, using the tone toggle and also flipping to only the neck PU…I can instantly add some beef to the overall tone and a nice volume kick… which I like for leads...or just flip back to *normal* on the tone and middle position on the PU for the more cleaner/balanced tone for rhythm.

So I never have to touch the two Volume or tone knobs…it's done just by flipping the two toggles up or middle. But then, I do like a darker tone anyway.

But yeah, if you set things differently on the guitar and amp...you could end up with a muddy tone rather then a nice ballsy lead tone.
I would love one of those Gretsch big-box guitars.
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#1944226 - 05/19/08 07:00 AM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: miroslav]
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 Originally Posted By: miroslav
 Originally Posted By: Mudcat


I have never come up with a practical application for the mud switch. \:\(


Do you mean the tone toggle?...


I meant to reply to this earlier. Yep, I'm refering to the tone switch. The standard Gretsch tone switch gives you three options: 1) Wide Open (middle), 2) Bassy with hi-cut (up) and 3) Mid-rangey with hi-cut (down). The two hi-cut positions are just too extreme for my taste, although I see how they could be used for some mellow jazz tones. On the odd occasion where I need a mellower tone I reach for the knobs on my amp instead.

As is ususally the case YMMV. \:\)

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#1944236 - 05/19/08 07:40 AM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Mudcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Mudcat

"I have never come up with a practical application for the mud switch. \:\( "

"...Yep, I'm refering to the tone switch. The standard Gretsch tone switch gives you three options: 1) Wide Open (middle), 2) Bassy with hi-cut (up) and 3) Mid-rangey with hi-cut (down). The two hi-cut positions are just too extreme for my taste, although I see how they could be used for some mellow jazz tones. On the odd occasion where I need a mellower tone I reach for the knobs on my amp instead.

As is ususally the case YMMV. \:\) "


Hmmmnn, I hafta think that this could probably be tailored to one's taste by swapping a few components for those of different values. What's it use, capacitors and resistors, inductors... ??
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#1944244 - 05/19/08 07:53 AM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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 Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite
 Originally Posted By: Mudcat

"I have never come up with a practical application for the mud switch. \:\( "

"...Yep, I'm refering to the tone switch. The standard Gretsch tone switch gives you three options: 1) Wide Open (middle), 2) Bassy with hi-cut (up) and 3) Mid-rangey with hi-cut (down). The two hi-cut positions are just too extreme for my taste, although I see how they could be used for some mellow jazz tones. On the odd occasion where I need a mellower tone I reach for the knobs on my amp instead.

As is ususally the case YMMV. \:\) "


Hmmmnn, I hafta think that this could probably be tailored to one's taste by swapping a few components for those of different values. What's it use, capacitors and resistors, inductors... ??


I'm sure it could be tweaked. I don't thnk it would be worthwhile for me as I rarely use the tone controls on any guitar. Not to mention I don't think it would be prudent monkeying with the electronics on a 1967 Gretsch in fairly decent (and relatively stock) condition.

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#1944341 - 05/19/08 10:37 AM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Mudcat]
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" I don't think it would be prudent monkeying with the electronics on a 1967 Gretsch in fairly decent (and relatively stock) condition.'

THAT'S for sure Mud!!, besides that it is impossible to improve on perfection!!

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#1944368 - 05/19/08 11:03 AM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Dr. Ellwood]
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 Originally Posted By: Dr. Ellwood
" I don't think it would be prudent monkeying with the electronics on a 1967 Gretsch in fairly decent (and relatively stock) condition.'

THAT'S for sure Mud!!, besides that is is impossible to improve on perfection!!


Good point. \:D


Edited by Mudcat (05/19/08 12:43 PM)
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#1944415 - 05/19/08 11:57 AM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Mudcat]
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Good call regarding vintage instruments; you're both right!

I was thinking more along the lines of newer Gretsch and Gretsch-styled guitars that are 'players' that wouldn't necessarily be thought of as investments or up for re-sale anytime soon, and carefully (and fully reversibly) enhancing them for a given player...

And, besides, it's not "perfection" at all- especially not if it's too dark and muddy for you!
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#1944448 - 05/19/08 12:45 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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 Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite
...And, besides, it's not "perfection" at all- especially not if it's too dark and muddy for you!


Well, I guess it was perfection for Chet. \:D

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#1944533 - 05/19/08 02:35 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Mudcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Mudcat
 Originally Posted By: Caevan O'Shite
...And, besides, it's not "perfection" at all- especially not if it's too dark and muddy for you!


Well, I guess it was perfection for Chet. \:D


They are perfection for Mud, Ellwood and CHET... and never forget what axe god plays!! ....Hay but what did CHET know right Mud!!! CHET always loved those muddy tones LOL!! \:\)

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#1944583 - 05/19/08 04:42 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Mudcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Mudcat
 Originally Posted By: Dr. Ellwood
" I don't think it would be prudent monkeying with the electronics on a 1967 Gretsch in fairly decent (and relatively stock) condition.'

THAT'S for sure Mud!!, besides that is is impossible to improve on perfection!!


Good point. \:D


You mis-spelled Good or point? hehehe

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#1944589 - 05/19/08 04:50 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Big Red 67]
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"You mis-spelled Good or point? hehehe" ..... HUH????
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#1944664 - 05/19/08 07:10 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Dr. Ellwood]
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What I meant was, if Mudcat (or anyone else- he can't be alone here) finds the tone-switch too dark and muddy to use (aren't people calling it a "mud-switch", even here on this thread?), it (A) could possibly be tweaked to be USABLE (barring any irreversable change to a vintage or rare instrument), and (B) is not "perfection", certainly not for Mudcat or anyone else who doesn't find it usable...

Overall, though, a GREAT, classic guitar, that has been used on some GREAT, classic recordings and performances by some wonderful players who we've been absolutely BLESSED to have had the priveledge of hearing from. And I kinda think that Chet Atkins could've made almost ANY guitar sound like "perfection"!
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#1944685 - 05/19/08 08:04 PM Re: Damn GAS, im down a few guitars for this one [Re: Caevan O'Shite]
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"Chet Atkins could've made almost ANY guitar sound like "perfection"

TRUTH!!!

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