#1940990 - 05/12/08 07:53 AM
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JinVA
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There is a Lesie 45 single speed on craig's list for 600 bucks. Is it worth it? I would probably eventually convert to 2-speed. -joel
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#1940994 - 05/12/08 08:03 AM
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If the cabinet is in good shape and the electronics work, go for it. I would.
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#1941000 - 05/12/08 08:11 AM
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If the cabinet is in good shape and the electronics work, go for it. I would.
Yup. Good price.
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#1941009 - 05/12/08 08:26 AM
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Thanks for the quick replies. I sent an email to the seller, not 10 minutes after it was posted. Hopefully I'll get it, because I've been waiting a long time for the real thing. Is the amp (and yes it has the amp, I know the 45's had a no amp option) basically the same as a 145 or 147 amp?
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#1941013 - 05/12/08 08:30 AM
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Seems a bit pricey to me. I don't pay more than that for full-sized Leslies. Then again, prices are different around the country.
Yes, the 45 amp is similar to a 147, sans the slow (chorale) speed.
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#1941016 - 05/12/08 08:39 AM
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JinVA
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The prices on the east coast are a lot higher than what I've read in other threads that you and others are paying further west. I haven't seen a leslie for sale near here in months that was less than about 900 dollars.
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#1941039 - 05/12/08 09:16 AM
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Make sure the 45 includes the amplifier - the 45 was also sold with a simple connector box with the intent that the organ's own amplifier would drive the speakers. I've seen several 45's for sale on eBay that lacked the amplifier. If it has the 47 amplifier, it's a great buy.
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#1943218 - 05/16/08 07:20 PM
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Well, I bought it. It seemed to work ok when I tried it on the guys M3, but the organ wasn't working right, so I couldn't let it rip. Unfortunately it will be a couple of weeks until I can use it with my electro, because I had to get my preamp sent in to get the 6-pin interface.
In the mean time, can someone give me a lesson on the tube amp? I searched, but with the crippled search engine I couldn't pull up anything. What I really don't know is what tubes are good, what I should have the resistor switch set on ( open, 8 ohms, 16 ohms) or how fragile the tubes actually are. I plan on gigging the 45 for bigger venues. I researched a little, and I know the very basics, like that the power tubes are the 6550's and should be a matched pair....but I don't really know much more than what the tube chart on the amp can tell me. I have tung-sols in there now....are those pretty good? I really don't know much, especially about brands. If I were to change them out, would I want new old stock or are some modern tubes pretty decent?
thanks for any help. Again, I searched google and the site and couldn't come up with a decent explanation of a leslie amp for a novice like me.
-joel
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#1943331 - 05/17/08 05:13 AM
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Joel, congrats on your Leslie score! Welcome to the club. What preamp do you use, out of curiosity?
The Tung Sols are fine, but you should probably pick up another set. I have newer Electro Harmonix tubes in my 122 that sound great. Not sure about the resistor switch (my 122 does not have one), but when I had a 145 I am pretty sure it was set to 16 ohms. Tubes are pretty durable.
By the way, how was that gig at The National?
Regards, Eric
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#1943383 - 05/17/08 08:04 AM
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I own three Leslie 45's and love them. I converted all three to two-speed with a Hampton Speed control so they are now essencially 145's.
There was a time when you could pick one up for about $300 but those days are gone! $600 is a fair price (considering that you will sepend $250 on a speed controller)...
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#1943614 - 05/18/08 12:51 AM
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The switch should be set to 16 ohm. The other settings are for running the Leslie in series with other amps, Leslies, etc.
The Tung-Sols are probably original and if they still have life in the them, they will sound sweet. Considering how expensive good old-stock Tung Sol 6550 tubes are, I'd save them for special engagements like recording sessions, etc. Slap a pair of Electro-Harmonix in there and you'll be good.
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#1943652 - 05/18/08 05:44 AM
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Congratulations JinVa, you won't regret it!
As for the load resistor switch, I suggest you double check, but if you use the Leslie with a preamp, then you should set it to "open". The other settings are there to provide a load to an organ when you hook it directly to the Leslie. The tube amp in the organ wants to see a "load", usually the speakers (8 or 16 ohms). If you disconnect the speakers on an organ and send the signal directly to the Leslie, then you sort of replace the speakers by the load resistor in the Leslie amp.
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#1943781 - 05/18/08 10:22 AM
Re: Leslie Question
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JinVA
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Joel, congrats on your Leslie score! Welcome to the club. What preamp do you use, out of curiosity?
The Tung Sols are fine, but you should probably pick up another set. I have newer Electro Harmonix tubes in my 122 that sound great. Not sure about the resistor switch (my 122 does not have one), but when I had a 145 I am pretty sure it was set to 16 ohms. Tubes are pretty durable.
By the way, how was that gig at The National?
Regards, Eric
I'm using a speakeasy preamp. Expensive, but I've liked what it has done for the electro. The national gig got canceled for us the night before. Ace Frehley had to leave town early, so he booted the first band. We were pretty bummed to say the least. They said they would try and make it up to us, but no promises, as they owe us nothing.
I was thinking the resistor switch should be open, but I'll try and find out for sure so I don't do any damage. I'm running Electro-speakeasy-leslie so it may be different than what I would do on a real hammond.
Another leslie question: should I think about replacing the belts on this thing? The ones on there look a bit old.
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#1944096 - 05/18/08 07:59 PM
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With a preamp pedal or driving it from a preamp-only organ console, set the switch to "Open." The 8 ohm and 16 ohm settings are to provide a self-contained organ's power amplifier with a load when the internal speakers are disconnected and the amplifier is driving the Leslie amp from its speaker terminals. This prevented the organ's amplifier from running unloaded when the internal speakers were silenced, which is bad for a tube amp.
Edited by B3Nut (05/18/08 08:02 PM)
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