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#1939470 - 05/08/08 08:34 PM

Strat Mod

Chad
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I'm in the middle of building a "hybrid" Strat. I want my 5 pickup options to be:

1. Neck
2. neck/bridge
3. Middle
4. Middle/bridge
5. Bridge

Can anyone point me, on the 'Net, to a wiring diagram that would show me how to do this, or maybe possibly email me a drawing? Thanks.

Edited by Chad (05/09/08 06:09 AM)

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#1939505 - 05/08/08 11:39 PM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Chad]

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Dunno why you'd forgo the neck/middle(my fav for rhythm). I DO know that some TA's have a switch that brings the bridge into play with any position. I think Fender has something similar as well.

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#1939555 - 05/09/08 04:50 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Bluesape]

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I'm with the furry fella' on this... The neck/middle setting can get some nice tone...

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#1939567 - 05/09/08 05:12 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Rampdog]

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Yup...they're right.

But...I think I saw a strat style guitar that's already doing that.
You might could get the pick up selector that's already wired that way.

Randy

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#1939601 - 05/09/08 06:12 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Strategery]

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Originally Posted By: Bluesape

Dunno why you'd forgo the neck/middle(my fav for rhythm). I DO know that some TA's have a switch that brings the bridge into play with any position. I think Fender has something similar as well.

Originally Posted By: Rampdog

I'm with the furry fella' on this... The neck/middle setting can get some nice tone...

Yebbut - I never use it, especially now when I play bass most of the time.

Can anyone help me? Anyone? Beuller?

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#1939613 - 05/09/08 06:32 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Chad]

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I'm not sure if this is any help, but my G&L S-500 strat has an expander switch that gives the following options :

* Position 1 - Bridge
* Position 2 - Bridge & Middle
* Position 3 - Middle
* Position 4 - Middle & Neck
* Position 5 - Neck

With expander switch:

* Position 1 - Bridge & Neck (same as position 5)
* Position 2 - Bridge & Middle & Neck (same as position 4)
* Position 3 - Middle
* Position 4 - Neck & Middle & Bridge (same as position 2)
* Position 5 - Neck & Bridge(same as position 1)

The schematics are here .

The neck & bridge option is a great idea, makes it sound like a tele in the middle position.

Cheers.

#1939624 - 05/09/08 06:49 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Windjammer]

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Originally Posted By: Windjammer

I'm not sure if this is any help, but my G&L S-500 strat has an expander switch that gives the following options :

* Position 1 - Bridge
* Position 2 - Bridge & Middle
* Position 3 - Middle
* Position 4 - Middle & Neck
* Position 5 - Neck

With expander switch:

* Position 1 - Bridge & Neck (same as position 5)
* Position 2 - Bridge & Middle & Neck (same as position 4)
* Position 3 - Middle
* Position 4 - Neck & Middle & Bridge (same as position 2)
* Position 5 - Neck & Bridge(same as position 1)

The schematics are here .

The neck & bridge option is a great idea, makes it sound like a tele in the middle position.

Cheers.

This is ideal - 7 tonal settings - my old Tele has the same amount of voicings.

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#1939635 - 05/09/08 06:58 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Windjammer]

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You might want to look at the different Fat-O-Caster switches. It will give you those options and many more (up to 11 or 12 voices - also look at the Memphis mods).

http://www.deaf-eddie.net/switches.html

OR

You can just use mini-switches

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wir...3on-offswitches

OR a push/pull to activate the bridge in any position

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=switch_f_bp

Edited by caprae (05/09/08 07:00 AM)
Edit Reason: Added more info

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#1939647 - 05/09/08 07:04 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: caprae]

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Originally Posted By: caprae

You might want to look at the different Fat-O-Caster switches. It will give you those options and many more.

OR

You can just use mini-switches...OR a push/pull to activate the bridge in any position...

I did install one Fat-O, but only ever used the neck/bridge of the expanded options, so it just seemed it would cost less (although Fat-Os are very fairly priced) and less work (I don't have a gift for wiring) to just do a neck/bridge mod. I may do a "neck on" with a push/pull switch...

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#1939651 - 05/09/08 07:13 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Chad]

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http://store.guitarfetish.com/wh3supiwikit.html

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#1939652 - 05/09/08 07:15 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: caprae]

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http://home.comcast.net/~jroscoe/Bridge-neckmod.html

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#1939680 - 05/09/08 07:34 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: caprae]

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I think I have a winner for you - just that the combos are on different positions of the switch. Read the last post in this thread:

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=802682

Another push/pull type mod
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/choosing-installing/tech-tips/strat_bridge_pi/

Edited by caprae (05/09/08 07:43 AM)

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#1939698 - 05/09/08 07:58 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: caprae]

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Originally Posted By: caprae

I think I have a winner for you - just that the combos are on different positions of the switch. Read the last post in this thread:

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=802682...

Wow! Thanks, caprae! That'll work!

Edited by Chad (05/09/08 01:56 PM)

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#1939836 - 05/09/08 11:40 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Chad]

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I still like having three separate toggle switches for a three pickup guitar. Every possible combination is right there, including all three on, which none of the above mentioned switch schemes seem to do.

Scott Fraser

#1939848 - 05/09/08 11:58 AM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Scott Fraser]

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I have the three toggles on my BC Rich ST III; it's ok if you want to add on additional pickups, but you can't do a quick Ritchie Blackmore switch from just neck to just bridge. That's a little more awkward. Throw in the series/parallel switch for the bridge humbucker, and it can take too long to switch to the "perfect" setting in a song.

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#1939902 - 05/09/08 01:57 PM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Scott Fraser]

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Originally Posted By: Scott Fraser

I still like having three separate toggle switches for a three pickup guitar. Every possible combination is right there, including all three on, which none of the above mentioned switch schemes seem to do.

Scott Fraser

Yeah, the Fat-O-Caster will do that, Scott; and you replace a tone control with the selector switch and the guitar looks stock.

Edited by Chad (05/09/08 01:57 PM)

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#1939919 - 05/09/08 02:38 PM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Scott Fraser]

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Originally Posted By: Scott Fraser

I still like having three separate toggle switches for a three pickup guitar. Every possible combination is right there, including all three on, which none of the above mentioned switch schemes seem to do.

I think the Fender S-1 Switching does. As I understand it, it turns on the bridge pup when the neck and mid are on... hence... all three. $;\)$

But... I have always liked the idea of three pups.. three switches. $\:D$

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#1939936 - 05/09/08 04:49 PM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Dave da Dude]

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Originally Posted By: Dave da Dude

I think the Fender S-1 Switching does. As I understand it, it turns on the bridge pup when the neck and mid are on... hence... all three. $;\)$

Oh OK. A sales guy at Sam Ash tried to explain the S-1 switch to me & just confused the issue more.

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But... I have always liked the idea of three pups.. three switches. $\:D$

I have two Steinberger clones with that switch arrangement & it just makes so much sense. Having a secondary switch in combination with a 5 way knife switch just doesn't feel very intuitive to me.

Scott Fraser

#1939937 - 05/09/08 04:52 PM

Re: Strat Mod [Re: Danzilla]

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Originally Posted By: Danzilla

I have the three toggles on my BC Rich ST III; it's ok if you want to add on additional pickups, but you can't do a quick Ritchie Blackmore switch from just neck to just bridge. That's a little more awkward. Throw in the series/parallel switch for the bridge humbucker, and it can take too long to switch to the "perfect" setting in a song.

Yeah I can see that being an issue in rock song forms. I do fairly free form improv stuff & I just pick a tone & go with it. If there's a need to change, there's always a lot of open space to do it in.

Scott Fraser

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