#1937612 - 05/05/08 07:46 PM
Please help complete this chord progression
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Hi All,
I'm trying to learn some funk stuff from the 70's and am chewing on Al Green's Love Is a Beautiful Thing. Here's a YuoTube link:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1VvnUIhFTMg
Ok, so at the beginning, where the guitar comes in and on the chorus, I'm starting on (and I don't know what these are called, they just sound right):
Chord 1 - Fret all across the 6th fret, hold down the the A and D string at the 8th fret
Chord 2 - Fret all across the 6th fret, hold down the D, G, and B strings at the 8th fret, mute the high E
Chord 3 - An F# at the 2nd fret
Chord 4 - This is the one driving me crazy!!
Please forgive my uninformed attempt here - like I said, it only sounds right, I'm not sure how to name the first two chords, pretty sure I've named the second one correctly...
THanks for any help!
Dave
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#1937624 - 05/05/08 08:23 PM
Re: Please help complete this chord progression
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I think you're pretty close. So it's Bbm, Ebm, F#, and then a C#
To play the C# just take your Chord 2 and drop it down 2 frets so your playing across the 4th and 6th frets.
At least this is my take!
FWIW... These chords really just regular bar chords - major or minor versions. Here's a link to learn a bit more about bar chords in general.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barre_chords
Edited by rw2003 (05/05/08 08:30 PM)
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#1937630 - 05/05/08 08:34 PM
Re: Please help complete this chord progression
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Thanks, RW!!
I think yuo're right on target! I knew there was a C in there - when I'd try to see where the progression ended, I'd hit a C note on the second fret of the B string, but couldn't come up wit a version of a C that worked!
Are these the names of the first two chords - B flat minor, and E flat minor?
The m means minor, right?
It sounds like a minor chord.
Thanks again!
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#1937637 - 05/05/08 08:46 PM
Re: Please help complete this chord progression
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Yes, but remember its C# (C sharp).
And yes the lower case "m" indicates a minor chord. The first 2 chords could be called B flat minor and E flat minor OR they could also be called A sharp minor and D sharp minor. It depends on what key the song is written in. Regardless, they are the same chords!
Good luck... sounds like you naturally have a good ear!
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#1937644 - 05/05/08 08:52 PM
Re: Please help complete this chord progression
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RW - always good to give consistency in your key.
Bbm -> Ebm -> Gb -> Db
Key of Gb - probably a hell of a lot easier on the guitar to detune half a step and play it in G (which is 99% likely to be the way it was written - those funk guys detuned all the time to make it easier to play in key with the brass section and still have access to open chords)
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#1937645 - 05/05/08 08:55 PM
Re: Please help complete this chord progression
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I was hoping someone with a bit more knowledge of theory would chime in. After I wrote the first response I knew that mixing Bb and F# was maybe not the best notation. Thanks!!!
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#1937761 - 05/06/08 05:17 AM
Re: Please help complete this chord progression
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Thanks again, RW and Griff!
Yeaqh, hearing things has always been the easiest way for me to learn something, but after all the time off (and the fact that I was all that great before the time off!), I get stuck a lot on the chords. I can even hear what each string shuold sound like in my head, but maling the jump to getting it right on the fretboard is often where I get stuck.
Now, on to the rest of the tune...
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#1937763 - 05/06/08 05:26 AM
Re: Please help complete this chord progression
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A quick lesson.
If you know your open chords, then barre chords are simple. Basically, when you play a barre chord, all your doing is moving an open chord up the neck to change it's pitch and then using your finger to replace the nut.
The main chords that you'll see moved are the E and E minor and the A and A minor (although any of the open chords can be moved).
The only thing that's left is figuring out the chord name once it's moved. This is actually simple to do, if you memorize the notes on the E and A string, using the dots. Starting on the E, third fret, the first dot is a G. The next dot (E fifth fret) is an A, then a B. From that point, drop down to the dot on the third fret of the A string and it's a C. Then a D and finally an E. So they go G,A,B,C,D,E. The notes in between are sharps and flats.
So, when you are naming your chords, you take the chords "flavour" from the name/flavour of the open chord and get the root name from the root note. Root notes from the E chords will come from the E string and root notes from the A chords will come from the A string. So...If you are playing an E minor and you move the nut up to the third fret and the rest of the chord above it, then the note on the third fret E (as you will see above) is a G. So it is a G and because you are using a minor position, it is a G minor. Move it again up to the fifth fret and it's now an A minor.
Same rule applies when you move an A chord, only you get the root name from the A string. So, playing an A major on the third fret with produce a C Major etc.
Once you have those down, try out the A7 and E7. You can do any of the variations like E minor 7 etc.
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#1937812 - 05/06/08 07:00 AM
Re: Please help complete this chord progression
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Just listened to it and it is definitely an Eb Major.
I'd say you're right Griff and they are tuned down a half step so the chord's fingerings would be:
Bm,E,G,D.
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#1938134 - 05/06/08 03:20 PM
Re: Please help complete this chord progression
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THanks for the lesson, A String, and thanks, too, for all the replies and help from everyone!
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#1938153 - 05/06/08 03:58 PM
Re: Please help complete this chord progression
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THanks for the lesson, A String, and thanks, too, for all the replies and help from everyone!
We all started from scratch and had to learn the ropes. Please feel free to ask as many questions as you want.
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#1938185 - 05/06/08 05:00 PM
Re: Please help complete this chord progression
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Wow... my bad on the Eb! Lack of sleep will do that. Trader56 described the Eb Major, I'm playing Eb Major along w/ the song yet writing Ebm!!! Punishment... 30 lashes w/ a G string!
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