#1938145 - 05/06/08 03:43 PM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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Please excuse my superflous flaws in my grammer and typing. I believe what I said in my most recent post was quite ambiguous. I do not believe in any sort of manner, that I in anyway, am a poser, because of my age and how I type. I sincererly appreciate the wise help that the intelligent bass players on this forum give to me and other novice bass players. I understand that I do not have the abilty to just walk into a store, buy some nice bass's and become famous. I am devouted to giving all the free time I have to playing bass, but around where I live, there are very few people who have the brains to guide me in the correct direction, which leads me to ask many questions. So again, I repent on me not typing in correct, fluent English. Also to elaborate on what getz76 said, I was never trying to yell at anyone on this forum, but instead explaining that I am at the age of 13, and that in todays soceity, it is not uncommon to find teenagers like me typing in an inappropriate manner. Again, to anyone who was in anyway offended by my typing, please except my sincre apologies and continue to help guide me in your path of wisdom and knowledge.
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Edit Reason: That guy showed me up
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#1938159 - 05/06/08 04:05 PM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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Hummmmm.... very interesting.
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#1938166 - 05/06/08 04:34 PM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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Please excuse my superflous flaws in my grammer and typing. I believe what I said in my most recent post was quite ambiguous. I do not believe in any sort of manner, that I in anyway, am a poser, because of my age and how I type. I sincererly appreciate the wise help that the intelligent bass players on this forum give to me and other novice bass players. I understand that I do not have the abilty to just walk into a store, buy some nice bass's and become famous. I am devouted to giving all the free time I have to playing bass, but around where I live, there is very few personel who have the brains to guide me in the correct direction, which leads me to ask many questions. So again, I repent on me not typing in correct, fluent English. Also to elaborate on what getz76 said, I was never trying to yell at anyone on this forum, but instead explaining that I am at the age of 13, and that in todays soceity, it is not uncommon to find teenagers like me typing in an inappropriate manner. Again, to anyone who was in anyway offended by my typing, please except my sincre apologies and continue to help guide me in your path of wisdom and knowledge.
You shure do talk purty!
No one likes a smartass, kid. Stick around. You might learn something.
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#1938174 - 05/06/08 04:45 PM
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Ok. Why did you make "is" bold? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, and if I am, please explain why.
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#1938188 - 05/06/08 05:05 PM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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Personnel refers to a group, a body of persons. I would think you would have been better off with "there are very few people".
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#1938199 - 05/06/08 05:16 PM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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This thread is sweat-worthy! 
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#1938225 - 05/06/08 05:44 PM
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OK, lay off the kid. He just asked a rookie question.
I think he's got enough info to know what a head is, now.
Smelvin, go pick up something that's at least 300 watts. Do some searching on this forum (use the search function) and you'll find LOTS of information.
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#1938281 - 05/06/08 07:59 PM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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Anywayyyy... so do you understand what a head is now, Smelvin? 
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#1938473 - 05/07/08 07:25 AM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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Don't let the grammar nazies run you off. Just keep in mind that people who participate here range in age from your generation to the downright geriatric. They also range in temperament from very laid back and helpful, to the very obstinate yet helpful. For the most part everyone here is helpful. You'll just get the help served with roses and candy from some of them, and served with a kick in the teeth from others.
It's the internet baby!
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#1938519 - 05/07/08 08:17 AM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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Hang in there, Smelvin.
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#1938694 - 05/07/08 01:16 PM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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Don't let the grammar nazies
I believe it should be "Nazis".
I prefer "grammar fascist".
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#1938742 - 05/07/08 02:54 PM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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HA!! You fell right into my trap!
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#1940756 - 05/11/08 04:26 PM
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Kind of a downer to see the way the rookies get hammered for asking retorical /mega re-posted topics. Why put your self out to reply innapropriately,when you can ingnore the post if its beneath you ,just to have the last word? Its just human nature to want to "one up? the other guy,but I think were better than that. I try to search first,if I cant find an answer or reference then post a topic hoping to get info to educate ourselves. By some of the replies makes me wonder if these experienced players we look up to are all that. Some of us may never "get it". Maybe a "rookies only" section of the forum is in the future. That way the ones who are lacking in general knowledge and experience can feel free to post there without ridicule and maybe might attract experienced members with xtra patience to reply without feeling put out or having thier time wasted .Or better yet a unmoderated section where when you go in there and"let if fly".IMO the sarcasm lowers the standard for ALL of us. Lead by example
"Elevating the topic of discussion" over on the guitar players forum has some tips on making this a better place for us. We all have to start some where and we will be gratefull when we get to the point of being a solid ,seasoned musicain.
Shredder,Im not. Motivated and inspired,I am!
Ive grown a lot since Ive been on board,and learned oodles more than the last several years of reading magazines ,books,ect. Thanks forum members.
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#1940834 - 05/11/08 07:42 PM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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Just keep in mind that people who participate here range in age from your generation to the downright geriatric.
Hey sonny, I resemble that remark.:)
Kind of a downer to see the way the rookies get hammered for asking retorical /mega re-posted topics.
There are several older members (Hall of Fame), who seem to answer every new rookie question, no matter how many times it has been asked. They treat these new people with respect and give them sage advice. It's up to those receiving the advice to try and figure out what it means. Sometimes it can be frustrating. When I discovered this forum 3 years ago I found that there was alot I didn't know, and I've been playing for 41 years. I too had a hard time deciphering what the guys were trying to tell me.
My advice to Smelvin7 is to hang around and read awhile, and re-read the threads he has solicited advice in. Good luck young man. Don't get frustrated. Just hang in there and it will start to come to you after awhile.
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#1941040 - 05/12/08 09:17 AM
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jl, where did you get that avatar picture from?
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#1941315 - 05/12/08 07:24 PM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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Hang in there, Smelvin.
I'm rooting for you.
Once upon a time, there was a young man of fifteen tender years. He went by the handle of Bass_God_Offspring. He was a querrelous little creature you delighted in posting gawdawful "This vs. That" threads and measured his success by the amount of controversy and acrimony he created.
Surely you ol' farts remember, I was there, and you, and yes, Jeremy, even you. Point is, after he settled down, developed a thicker skin (which you will NEEEEEEED if you start no-crap gigging, or just quit now), he was a beloved, knowledgeable and insightful member of this forum. I don't know what finally became of him.
Oh, I'm 47, went to parochial school, have a degree and I can't spell for crap. That's why Bill Gates invented the F7 key (on you computer keybord, not F mixolydian, you theory geek!)
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#1941368 - 05/12/08 10:30 PM
Re: I'm still confused. Whats a head have to do with a bass
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jl, where did you get that avatar picture from?
I got this photo in my email and it was supposed to be taken, as film footage I assume, in Sedalia, Missouri in spring of 2006. We had over 100 tornadoes in the state on the day this was to have been taken. There WAS a tornado in Sedalia on the night in question.
Pretty cool photo huh? MY Lord at work. 
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#1941376 - 05/12/08 11:12 PM
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Sure, I remember BGO. I met him a few times in person. Nice kid. He's probably in college now, and would guess that he's doing well.
I wasn't one of the people hammering on smelvin, although I have been vocal in the past about communicating clearly. Paragraphs, spelling, typing all exist for a reason...the same reason as written music, music theory and technique exist....so that people can express their thoughts clearly.
I also remember Thanny XIII. I tried my best with him too, even sent him a present once. I wonder if he ever got out.
It's interesting since I was the age of these people almost 50 years ago and now am considered an expert. How did I learn what I know without the internet, tab, bass books and video and older people who would patiently answer questions?
On the other hand, I also spent at least ten years of my life in which I did nothing but study and play music in general and the bass in particular. That means every waking hour.
Nowadays the amount of information which can be accessed instantly is amazing, and yet we still answer the same questions for people who aren't spending the time looking for the answers for themselves. I've been teaching bass for 35 years now and am still surprised that people ask me questions in their valuable lesson time which could be easily answered just by ordering a catalog from a music store or getting a subscription to a magazine.
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#1941398 - 05/13/08 02:28 AM
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Some of you may recognize this phrase. "Find someone who has the heart of a teacher". What that means is; someone who wants to share his knowledge and has the patience to teach you, even though he may have taught others the same thing, time after time. On this forum we have some wonderful teachers, that don't mind stopping what they are doing and taking the hand of a newcomer and leading them through the basics. Some get irritated, some don't mind at all and are happy to do it. Let us be thankful we have the new players coming to this forum and wanting to learn.
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#1941415 - 05/13/08 04:22 AM
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Jeremy - I remember clearly and I know you weren't hammering ... I was taking cheap liberties with a quite of the Wizard of Oz and you happened to be the first with a "hang in there" quote which is were I was hoping to go and failed miserable.
Consider - in 1978 when I first was interested in bass, living in East San Jose, with no connections and no money for a teacher and no reliable means of transport to a music store, information was hard to get. With the internet, on line shopping, music superstores and the fact that everyone 13 and over knows someone with a car, this info is much easier and faster now.
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#1941437 - 05/13/08 05:18 AM
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Jeremy makes some very good points.
I am just now starting to get a grip on what level of knowledge and experience is on this forum. I am frankly a little emabarassed about some of the things I have come across with.
There is every level of player here, from the rookies to the hobbyists to touring musicians to professors of music, all from across the world. They are willing to share things that took them years to learn, and that deserves respect. This place is hands down the best musician oriented forum I have been on.
I was one of the more direct ones with Smelvin this time around because I want to see the young man grow as a musician, and to make the point that wannabe's with a bad attitude are not going to survive here.
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#1941450 - 05/13/08 05:32 AM
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I have to admit that while many of us consider some of the things Smelvin has asked to be old hat, at one point or another all of us have asked these sorts of questions. It's part of the learning curve we all have to go through. And to that end, this forum can be a wealth of information. Do some lurking and read in on threads. Do some searches on specific topics (although I think the search feature could be a little better). Get a subscription to Bass Player magazine.
As for the spelling and grammar? That can be a touchy subject. While IM lingo might be perfectly acceptable amongst your peers, if you don't see that style being used extensively in the forum then obviously the forum members are using a different standard for writing and posting. That's where you might need to play to your prospective audience. You're trying to elicit information and knowledge from other forum members. So it is in your own interests to communicate with these people clearly so that you can get responses that are informative and on topic, and not straying off topic with regard to your egregious spelling or grammar.
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#1941464 - 05/13/08 06:17 AM
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#1941519 - 05/13/08 07:41 AM
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#1941743 - 05/13/08 04:56 PM
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Nowadays the amount of information which can be accessed instantly is amazing, and yet we still answer the same questions for people who aren't spending the time looking for the answers for themselves.
Yup.
And because we ARE a forum, you'd think people would learn or investigate stuff on their own just to have something to exchange with the other forum members. You know, just to keep the information exchange going, otherwise it's a real one-way process.
Naturally, one wouldn't expect people who start those "Which First Bass For Me?" threads to contribute much in the way of info, but having members with well-informed opinions is what makes this place a forum and not some FAQ site.
BTW: I think I agree with your point about "How did we ever learn anything before the internet?"
When I was 14, and long before the internet, I used to love hanging out in rehearsal rooms watching bands practice. You'd be surprised at how many bands will let you sit and listen when you're a kid. I'd usually help them lug out to their cars, just for the sake of it. It was a great way of learning stuff.
When I got older I'd go watch bands play at the local pubs and hang out with them afterward. I'd usually give them a hand lugging, too, and it was a great way of learning about gear and its pros and cons. When I myself started playing live, I'd usually chat with the other bands' roadies and mixers. You'd be amazed at how much stuff roadies can know. Maybe I'd give people a hand setting up the stage (focusing lights, helping soundcheck, etc) And of course, whenever I got a chance to ask luthiers or guys in music shops about stuff, I *did*. All on top of jamming with as many people as possible, busking, having a shot at fixing my own gear and so on.
It was a slow and tedious process, but I think it gave me some pretty solid basics to build on. These days information can all be pretty much "easy come, easy go".
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#1942542 - 05/15/08 11:14 AM
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Nowadays the amount of information which can be accessed instantly is amazing, and yet we still answer the same questions for people who aren't spending the time looking for the answers for themselves.
...BTW: I think I agree with your point about "How did we ever learn anything before the internet?"
As far as Internet information goes, there is almost an overload of information and opinions, and discerning what is good information and what is opinionated rambling can be hard to discern, especially for the beginner and novice people.
Naturally, one wouldn't expect people who start those "Which First Bass For Me?" threads to contribute much in the way of info, but having members with well-informed opinions is what makes this place a forum and not some FAQ site.
That's the thing that makes it a good forum is the fact that the people here are well informed, and can speak from knowledge and experience. That is what makes the information and discussions so much more valuable. The 'which [piece of gear] should I buy' folks may not be able to contribute much to the 'how has global music influenced you' stuff, but hopefully seeing this stuff will make them think on a level deeper than learning [whatever bass player]'s next cool lick.
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#1943194 - 05/16/08 05:06 PM
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Thanks for hanging in there and coming back!
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