#1934680 - 04/30/08 08:33 AM
mondo trap in place of micro trap for early reflections?
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Nequadon
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Hi Ethan, im one of your many satisfied customers, very effective traps! I had a question though about using mondo traps at the early reflection points. Being that they are slightly reflective at the higher frequencies will they be skewing the high frequencies on me? as of now i have a mondo above me on for the early celing reflections . also wondering the same thing about that too .
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#1934696 - 04/30/08 09:05 AM
Re: mondo trap in place of micro trap for early reflections?
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Ethan Winer
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For reflection points I always recommend the "HF" versions of our traps. Likewise for traps on the wall behind you if that wall is closer than about ten feet. The HF types sacrifice a small amount of bass absorption for 100 perception absorption at mid and high frequencies. MicroTraps are always HF style, and we can make MiniTraps and MondoTraps either way. If you have a standard MondoTrap on the ceiling I suggest you move that to a corner and replace it with an HF style. Other RealTraps you may buy in the future for reflection points should definitely be the HF style too.
--Ethan
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#1934768 - 04/30/08 10:33 AM
Re: mondo trap in place of micro trap for early reflections?
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ok gotchya, but would it make any sense to turn them so the reflective side is facing away from me? i do have micro traps that im about to use instead of the mondo on the celing but was just wonderin about the side reflection panels. On to another question, i was wonderin if stacking lets say 2 mondos together for added mass is acceptable way to increase absorbtion in a corner. (not stacking 1 on top of the other ,but 2 together to make a say 8 inch absorber, or does the fact that it has the reflective membrane make it too dense and possibly create a negative result?
appreciate the help , thanks 
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#1935446 - 05/01/08 12:30 PM
Re: mondo trap in place of micro trap for early reflections?
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would it make any sense to turn them so the reflective side is facing away from me?
Sure, if you don't mind looking at the rear of the trap.
i was wonderin if stacking lets say 2 mondos together for added mass is acceptable way to increase absorbtion in a corner.
You'll do better to use extra MondoTraps to treat more total corner surface.
--Ethan
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#1936175 - 05/02/08 06:54 PM
Re: mondo trap in place of micro trap for early reflections?
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well as it happens, i have 16 mondo traps that are all the reflective type , i was really going for all the bass trapping i could manage in this 10' 1/2 X 13' X 8' room. Do u think i overdid it? i do also have 5 micro traps. At my back wall i have 4 mondos there being its closer to me than 10' at my mix position, im wondering if i could still keep them there in addition to adding 2 micro traps on stands right behind me . as far as my bass control in this room its very good, but my mixes were dull in the high end so this is where im at.
thanks again
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#1936369 - 05/03/08 07:57 AM
Re: mondo trap in place of micro trap for early reflections?
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Since you seem to be local, we could probably rework some of those MondoTraps to HF versions for a small fee. Or if you're up for doing that yourself and you have the right tools, we can provide the painted rivets for free and tell you how to do that.
--Ethan
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#1936389 - 05/03/08 09:02 AM
Re: mondo trap in place of micro trap for early reflections?
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cool, i wouldnt mind tryin to do it myself, what would i need as far as tools , i could pic up the rivets because i am local .
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#1936803 - 05/04/08 11:03 AM
Re: mondo trap in place of micro trap for early reflections?
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Call me during the day this coming week and we'll set you up. All you need is a pop rivet tool.
--Ethan
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#1938368 - 05/07/08 04:14 AM
Re: mondo trap in place of micro trap for early reflections?
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thanks again Ethan, re-working the traps is actualy kinda fun.
A question about the traps that i switched around that arent in corners , do u still recommend i space them away from the wall a few inches even if the reflective surface is facing the wall?
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#1938560 - 05/07/08 09:32 AM
Re: mondo trap in place of micro trap for early reflections?
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Yes, all absorbers work a little better when they're spaced off the wall (or ceiling).
--Ethan
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