#1903909 - 03/05/08 03:24 PM
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The cd is called: The Suitcase (Live in Köln '94)
The artist: Steve Khan
The band: Steve Khan, guitar; Anthony Jackson, bass; Dennis Chambers, drums
Read what Steve Khan himself has to say about it.
This recording shows three exceptional musicians communicating at the highest level. Anthony Jackson's playing is absolutely phenomenal, some of it is unbelieveable from a technical standpoint and yet everything he does serves the music 100%, he is not playing licks, showcasing techniques or particularly soloing.
The recording quality is sublime....I like hearing the grind of the strings on the frets of the bass as the last notes of a song fade out. It's a trio and the mix and the balance between the three players is perfect....I'm guessing that they set up and played and the mix is not much different from what they heard on stage.
The music would have to be characterized jazz fusion, but there are no distorted lead guitars or stereotyped funky beats. There are a few jazz standards on the two cd set, but they certainly aren't performed in a traditional style.
If you liked Steve Khan's three Eyewitness cds, you will love this one.
For you non-jazz or non-fusion guys: If you liked Andy Summers guitar playing with the Police...there are similarities to Steve Khan's guitar playing. If you like Neil Peart's drumming and haven't heard Dennis Chambers, you ought to take a listen.
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#1904097 - 03/05/08 11:11 PM
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I not very familiar with Steve Kahn. However, Jackson and Chambers are reason enough to buy the cd. Thanks for the tip.
And Chambers blows Peart off the map. IMO.
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#1904169 - 03/06/08 05:10 AM
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Steve Khan is wonderful. He has a famous dad who spells his name differently. This is one for me to check out! I don't get the connection between Dennis and Neil.
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#1904314 - 03/06/08 08:36 AM
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There is no connection between Dennis and Neil.
Neil has tons of drums. Rock players think he is great.
Dennis is great.
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#1904331 - 03/06/08 09:05 AM
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I saw Chambers with John Mclaughlin at The House of Blues in LA. Chambers did a drum solo I swear each leg and arm was playing a different time signature yet all locked in LOL!!!! The guy is phenomenal.
Anthony Jackson ranks with my all time fave bass players. That statement was so correct...technically friggen brilliant while totally serving the composition. Genuis!
Is this the CD that is only available on AbstractLogix or did you get it in a store?
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#1904340 - 03/06/08 09:13 AM
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I got it from AbstractLogix but I think other places online may have it cheaper. I ordered it a month ago...before it was released.
Are there stores that stock the latest obscure fusion cds that are released on small labels?
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#1904359 - 03/06/08 09:31 AM
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Eyewitness - best band ever. Thanks, Jeremy.
I got to hear a live recording of this band. It was recorded by Dennis during a gig in Germany. He sent it to a friend of his in Myrtle Beach. Unbelievable.
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#1904407 - 03/06/08 10:10 AM
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That might be the same recording.....on the liner notes Steve said that there were bootlegs going around and he wanted to put out the real thing (and actually maybe get some money for it).
I don't know what the bootlegs were like...but the quality of this recording is impeccable.
Dennis is just off the hook. And I've never heard Anthony like this before even though I have lots of recordings on which he has played.
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#1904830 - 03/06/08 08:17 PM
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I hate to keep talking about this cd. (Actually I don't hate talking about it...I love talking about it.)
It's been on repeat at my house for three days now. Loud. Speakers are turned on in two rooms. When friends come over, they shake their heads, thinking I'm out of my gourd. When students come over, they shake their heads because they can't believe what they're hearing.
I'm starting to hear more details. Track 6 features Anthony Jackson. Things I thought were the guitar are all coming from Anthony's 6 string bass, including a nice chordal intro and a part that sounds like a finger-picked guitar that it just too fast for a human to play on a bass.
On track 7, he's playing some chordal things while laying down the bass line and at one point on another tune there's a single line counter-melody that appears. I'm trying to imagine what fingers he is using to play that.
Jackson was the first bassist to play the six string bass tuned B-C (you could look it up) and if you want to know "why do you need a 6 string bass", I can't answer that. But if you want to know, "what can you do with a 6 string bass", listen to this recording.
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#1904911 - 03/07/08 05:09 AM
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Well, I'm sold! Trying to locate it locally (since it is not available via iTunes store..)
Thanks for the heads-up, Jeremy!
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#1904932 - 03/07/08 05:26 AM
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I just went to Steve's site http://stevekhan.com/. They are selling the 2 CD set on Amazon for $15. If I order it now, it should be arrive about the time I get home from Florida.
Maybe he will re-release Public Access. Can't have too many copies of that laying around.
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#1904949 - 03/07/08 05:45 AM
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I ordered it from Amazon, and to get the free shipping ordered Day Trip - Pat Metheny Trio as well.
Sweet!
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#1904977 - 03/07/08 06:43 AM
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Anthony Jackson's playing is absolutely phenomenal, some of it is unbelieveable from a technical standpoint and yet everything he does serves the music 100%, he is not playing licks, showcasing techniques or particularly soloing.
When the music is that kinetic, you've got to be kinetic too! He's great. Nice post-Jaco style with a modern nuance. (Don't shoot me for saying "post-Jaco"... I just hear it! Plus, "post-" implies, having occurred after, having evolved from or beyond. So it's not an equation I'm trying to make. Clearly different players in a lot of ways.)
And Chambers blows Peart off the map. IMO.
That's all well and good but like the others have said, is there a connection? "Rock players think he's great," and he most certainly is. Having a lot of drums is not a crime. Just a different style.
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#1905098 - 03/07/08 09:38 AM
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When the music is that kinetic, you've got to be kinetic too! He's great. Nice post-Jaco style with a modern nuance. (Don't shoot me for saying "post-Jaco"... I just hear it! Plus, "post-" implies, having occurred after, having evolved from or beyond. So it's not an equation I'm trying to make. Clearly different players in a lot of ways.)
AJ has been around at least as long as Jaco and is at least equally as profound. I realize that it is hard for some of you to imagine fine bass playing without Jaco or Flea, but hey, it happens.
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#1905129 - 03/07/08 10:21 AM
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Anthony Jackson was born in 1952. He recorded "For the Love of Money" with the O'Jays in 1973. He does not play fretless and rarely solos. He had his first six string bass built in 1975 and has played 6 string exclusively since 1981. He plays with his fingers, a pick and his thumb (no slapping for him).
Jaco Pastorius was born in 1951. His first recordings were with Pat Metheny in 1974. He played fretless most of the time and did not play six string bass. He played with his fingers exclusively.
Both bassists have recorded with Pat Metheny, Pastorius in '74 and '75 (and on the Joni Mitchell recordings) and Jackson in '92.
I don't think you could call Jackson, post-anything, except "post-Jamerson", whom he reveres.
And I don't know what got into me, mentioning another drummer's name in the same sentence as Dennis Chambers. That was sacrilegious.
Edited by jeremy c (03/07/08 10:24 AM)
Edit Reason: forgot Joni for a minute
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#1905217 - 03/07/08 12:04 PM
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I heard a Steve Khan cut on XM radio this morning, it was live and featured Anthony Jackson. What a monstrous rhythm section. I ordered the CD this morning, can't wait to hear it all.
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#1905543 - 03/07/08 09:40 PM
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I wasn't trolling. Really, I wasn't.
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#1907470 - 03/11/08 12:49 PM
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Jackson>Jaco. That works for me. Whatever. I just heard a similarity in my young, unknowing ears.
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#1907542 - 03/11/08 02:23 PM
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I guess if you heard Jaco first, that'd the way it feels to you. Both are harmonically sophisticated, great listeners, musically accomplished and play the bass. I don't hear the connection personally. Anthony would have been Anthony with or without Jaco.
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#1907863 - 03/12/08 06:15 AM
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Yeah, I'm not really trying to argue that they are connected, and I realize now that I erred in saying "post"-Jaco. I'm new to Mr. Jackson--as of this thread--so I apologize. Either way I like his playing. Maybe it's just EQ or something but I hear a commonality. If Jaco hadn't been a cokehead his right hand might have been able to become as precise as Mr. Jackson sounds; either way they both have this ebullient tone that I really like.
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#1910913 - 03/17/08 07:37 AM
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Based on Jeremy's glowing review I purchased the Steve Khan/Anthony Jackson/Dennis Chambers live CD set.
All I can say is...WOW!
This is a wonderful addition to my CD (and now, iTunes) collection--Thank You Very Much Jeremy for sharing your thoughts! 
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#1931126 - 04/23/08 08:17 AM
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Steve has some transcriptions and lead sheets from that trio here:
http://www.stevekhan.com/korner2.htm
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#1941525 - 05/13/08 07:49 AM
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This is a good thread. It got me wanting to make a Pandora station of good jazz. However, Steve Khan isn't on Pandora (nor Jackson). Guess I'll just have to buy this. But can anyone recmmend good jazz in this sort of semi-modern feel? I must say, it's quite awesome. I want to get a Pandora station full of it.
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#1942072 - 05/14/08 08:00 AM
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You can listen to some of my Pandora stations:
http://www.pandora.com/people/feilik
Try the Modern Fusion radio station or the Tatu/Agharta station.
Or maybe Sly radio or Birds of Fire radio station
I can't access them anymore, Pandora has been blocked over in the UK due to the short-sighted, outdated views of the music publishing organisations.
Live 365
http://www.live365.com/index.live
has some great fusion radio stations.
Check out Mike Stern, John Scofield, David Binney, Nguyen Le, Tribal Tech, Vital Information, Bojan Z, Michael Brecker, Joe Zawinul, Christian McBride Live at Tonic, Hiromi, Meshell Ndegeocello's Dance of the Infidel . . .
That's a start.
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#1942148 - 05/14/08 01:03 PM
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I can't access them anymore, Pandora has been blocked over in the UK due to the short-sighted, outdated views of the music publishing organisations.
Check out Mike Stern, John Scofield, David Binney, Nguyen Le, Tribal Tech, Vital Information, Bojan Z, Michael Brecker, Joe Zawinul, Christian McBride Live at Tonic, Hiromi, Meshell Ndegeocello's Dance of the Infidel . . .
That's a start.
Phil, that sucks about Pandora. I love it.  Thanks for letting me listen to your stations though, I'm instantly adoring it.
Thanks for the list of names too...
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#1942486 - 05/15/08 08:38 AM
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Jackson>Jaco. That works for me. Whatever. I just heard a similarity in my young, unknowing ears.
Your ears may be young, cassius, but maybe they're not unknowing. I'm sure Jaco and AJ listened to each other a lot, and there may in fact be resonances of Jaco, subtle as they may be, in AJ's playing. Just because my old, unknowing ears don't hear them doesn't mean they're not there.
Or maybe they're really not. Either way, it's not a thing to feel bad about.
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#1942951 - 05/16/08 08:44 AM
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Thanks Chad. I don't want to be disrespectful in any case. I certainly respect both players as distinctly great individuals, although pre-this thread I never had heard of Jackson.
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