#1901797 - 03/02/08 06:27 AM
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Why am I a member of the Music Player Forum? That is a good question? Considering the fact that, I am not a musician, I do not play any instrument, even though I have two synthesizers, a controller keyboard(still in the box) and a Farfisa Combo organ. I had taken piano lessons in the past, but never kept up with them. I do not like to practice, I don't have any talent, or the desire to learn. I tend to loose interest in things rather quickly. I am more apt to watch TV then read a book, or learn an instrument. I don't surf the web, only vist a few web sites, and write and or read the occasional email. I do have two web sites. One is on the Korg Poly-61, and the other is On the ARP Omni. There was a time when I thought I would be a keyboard player, but fell in to a bad habbit of buying keybaords, thinking that would solve my problem. It did not, I just wound up wasteing money. I even spent a lot of time in music stores looking at gear that I would love to own, but never could afford, and still can't. I have even thought about creating my own electronic music, with magnetic tape, or even buying my own modular synth. Of course I realised, that I would again loose interest, and would, just wind up wasteing money, and be back in front of the TV again. I spend a lot of time watching TV, even though most of it's just grabage. TV is a drug, that I just can not seem to rid myself form. I also do not go out, only becuse going out by myself is not always fun. I am introverted, and tend to stay in my own little world.
I thought by joining this forum, would help me, but then againg, really haven't made any real effort. I don't have a studio, just a PC, and an old Cassette deck. I wanted to have my own Minimoog synthesizer, but those things are too expensive, and of course I would be abck at my old habbit, of it just sitting there not being used, along with my other keyboard instruments. Problem, once I had a Mini, the excitement would ware off rather quickly. That's why I stopped buy synths, and my subscription to Keyboard magazine, as well as not posting on here. If I have nothing to say, why bother posting.
This will most likely be my final post, since I realy don't spend time on here. No point being a non musician, on a musician run forum. Unless I change my ways, which I seriously doubt I ever will, I will not be back.
Thank you for taking the time to read, my thoughts, and rambleings. If you have any advice, thoguhts oppinions, concerns etc... Please feel free to post a reply, or you can send me an email or PM, which ever you prefer.
PEACE!  The freak! aka Paul
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#1902484 - 03/03/08 08:46 AM
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Sorry, there's a two drink minimum here at the Downstairs Loungs- you can't leave until you've had at least 2. More is better.
Cry in the bartender's beer.
But as in all things, you can't get something for nothing. If you're not going to put in some time playing, writing, learning, etc., then you're not going to get the enjoyment out of it. Better to learn that now than after you've blown a couple grand on gear that you don't use (GUILTY PARTY RIGHT HERE!).
Frederick, MD, huh? Search http://www.makenmusicmd.com if you want to find a local band to play with. Found my drummer that way. Of course, they'll want you to practice, so if you're not willing to do that, don't waste a band's time.
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#1902509 - 03/03/08 09:19 AM
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Cancel your HBO/Showtime...
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#1902540 - 03/03/08 09:51 AM
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PS: I recently came into possession of an ARP Omni 2, and a Vox Jaguar. Fun stuff!
Now let the nearest person slap you out of your funk, and get back to PLAYING some funk!
(Miro- that wasn't directed at you. However, if the person next to you slaps you, so be it. Enjoy it.)
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#1902634 - 03/03/08 12:54 PM
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You know Paul, I say this with the best of intentions:
01) quit whining
02) start playing
There's not a lot to it, dude. Just learn some songs, find a band and be sure it's one that will learn new songs regularly so you will stay interested.
Everything you posted? It's just excuses, man. And to paraphrase a movie I once saw: An excuse is like an a**hole, everyone's got one.
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#1902666 - 03/03/08 01:36 PM
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Dave has just unleashed his dark side! Will we ever see our lovable cuddly ol' EPB again?
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#1902747 - 03/03/08 03:45 PM
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Thanks for the advice guys, I really appericate it. BTW: I don't have HBO or Showtime, don't even have digital cable, or direct TV.
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#1902820 - 03/03/08 06:21 PM
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Thanks for the advice guys, I really appericate it. BTW: I don't have HBO or Showtime, don't even have digital cable, or direct TV.
Then I gotta' ask...WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU WATCHING ALL THE TIME?!?!?! 
I have a digital dish...500 channels of a lot of nothing! 
Once in awhile I can find a good movie or some "Discovery Channel" stuff that's interesting...but the rest of the time it's just boring...boring...boring content!
So if you're on old-style off-air TV...there can't be too many channels/programs for you to pick from…???
Hey...I was in a bad funk twice in my musical history.
Once back in the mid-80's for about 4 years...and again in the late 90's for about 2 years.
In the late 90's I almost sold off ALL my audio/music gear, and was ready to turn the page and forget about all that stuff, as nothing seemed to be moving forward for me.
Then I thought about it and realized that music has been with me way too long for me to quit on it...so I went totally opposite, and instead of quitting, I dove in even deeper.
Here I am now, 10 years later...and things couldn't be better...best they've been.
Now I am so juiced up…I think it will carry me for another 20 years or more. 
Anyway...don't quit on something you've never really even started.
Dive in a bit deeper and TURN OFF THE TV! 
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#1903301 - 03/04/08 02:04 PM
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Well mostly shows on the History Channel, Discovery Chanel, and the Travel chanel.
I wouldn't say I'm in a funk, becuse most funk's don't last your entire life. I had started takeing piano lessons, at a young age, becuse I really wanted to play the organ. I had a fascination with pipe organs as a kid. Anyway, I stared with the Yamaha Childrens Piano Class, and then moved to a private tutor. I had a good teacher, but I never got into seirous parctacineg, becuse of the music I had to learn to play. Plus I did'n care for playing classical music. Espically, with having to learn proper fingering. Even when I did practice, I detested it. I always wanted to do something else. Of course that else was TV. Growing up I never wanted to do anything, even when my parents signed me up for activites, I hated it. I never like sports, or rideing a bike. I mostly spent time in my room , playing by myself, or watching TV. Even when my neighbor frineds came to play basketball or kickball, I never got involved, or were asked to play. Mainly because I would say no. In away that mentalty has carried over in to adulthood. Becuse I have condtioned myself to the point, where I think I could play, but my minde says "You have got to be kidding" I really do not have the drive or the desire. See I want to be good, I just don't want to work at it, but it does not work that way. Sure I'll work at something, when I go to work, but when I come home, I don't want to work. I am a big procrastinator. It takes me a long, long long time, before I get around to really doing something. Only becuse I don't want to do it, or I think I don't have enough time. I'm sure I could be good at playing keyboards, if I was really motivated, but I am not, and probabably nvere will be. Not matter, how many people tell me other wise. I will never change. I still do not even know what I am really good at. Even though I have been told I am creative. I just happen to be my own worst critic. Sure these are excuses, but I have never be able to break them. I don't even go out, unless it to dinner with my parents. I don't really have a life outside of work.
I have always like synthesizers and electronic music, but have never considered myself a musican, so that's why I don't play the keyboards I have.
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#1903319 - 03/04/08 03:14 PM
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ACF, you may want to see a doctor. I'm no expert but it sounds like you may be suffering from depression or a gland disorder. Make sure you have a clean bill of health first.
Try going without TV for a while. We gave up TV for lent. The funny thing is that after a while you don't really miss it. Make it harder to watch TV by unplugging the set(s). Or even put them in storage for a time. When you have to go through the trouble of plugging in the TV it makes you think twice about it. If you have to pull it out of the back closet and set it up it really makes you think twice!
Now, what do you want to do with all that free time that you used to waste while watching TV? Well, before TV and radio people had to amuse themselves. This might have meant gathering in the parlor to sing and dance while someone played piano. Or going back a ways a family might have a chest of viols for everyone to play.
And just like then it's always possible to go out and listen to live music. You may find a local musician that inspires you to play better (and thus practice). Or maybe you can find an open mic/jam where you feel comfortable playing as well as listening.
I'm a big procrastinator, too. Things that help me are signing up for a group or a class. Or have a clear goal to work towards, like playing 3 particular songs at a specific open mic on the week of March 31st. (That gives you just over a week to learn each song; better start working!) Most groups and classes meet regularly so that becomes your schedule if you find it hard to stick to one of your own. And having others depend on you (or grading you) is often incentive for putting some effort into it.
For a lot of people traditional piano lessons are a huge turn off. Try to see if there is anyone in your area that offers keyboard lessons for the music you like to play. Again, when you're shelling out $50/week (or whatever) it should give you some motivation to practice during the week.
Lately I've noticed some craigslist ads for "jam buddies". These are musicians that just want to play for fun: no intentions of playing bars every weekend or touring the world. You may want to try looking for a jam buddy of your own. Make it a standing date where you get together at least once a week. This should at least force you to play once a week.
Just a half hour practice each night is going to add up. If you do that 6 nights a week you'll put in 3 hours a week. If you do that 50 weeks a year (take off at least a couple for vacation) then you'll put in 150 hours a year. Imagine how much better you'll be after 150 hours! You're not going to notice it after the first 30 minutes, but you should improve gradually over time. When you look back at the end of the year you'll be surprised at how much progress you've made!
Don't limit yourself to just one idea, either. Practicing 6 nights a week, jamming one or two nights a week with a buddy or two, private lessons once a week, community/worship/community college band rehearsals once a week (with performances at least once a quarter), and playing a few tunes at open mikes/jams every week ... that'll really get you on your way!
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#1903352 - 03/04/08 05:03 PM
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I never felt depressed, and my glands are fine. My docto had given me a clean bill of health. The only thing I suffer from is angxity, and a rapid heart rate, which I control with medication. (low doasge of course). I have always had a hard time motivateing myself. I can get motivated at work, but not at home.
I do remeber one time, I was at a music store in Baltimore, and I was messing around with a Roland MC 303. And this young guy, had hared me and liked what I was doing. I was just messing around with different beats and rythms, but that was it. I did one time make up my own piece of music, but I never could make an ending, and I have never been able to recreate it on a different keyboard. There was another time I was in a Guitar Center in Rockville, and I was messing with a Korg Triton Le. I found this one sound, the was middle Eastern/ Indian, that was a sort of arppegio type sequence, and I was able to play a melody with my right hand. Again, have not been able to recreate that either. As I siad in my orignal post, the only keyboard I really had fun with was, a minimoog. Because it had no prestes, or memeories. You just grab a knob, and went to town. Hence the name analogcontrolfreak, plus it just poped into my head one day.
BTW: I really was not expceting this kind or any kind of response. I'll give it a shot.
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#1903599 - 03/05/08 07:59 AM
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I'll second RicBassGuy's suggestion of turning off the tv, or even putting it away.
And I'll also give you a second option that contradicts that. (I'm full of dichotomy- sue me) If you're going to watch tv, how about playing along? Keep your keyboard nearby, plugged in & turned on. Turn down the sound on the tv, and make your own soundtrack. It's not always important that you're able to recreate it(but hey, use your tape deck if you want, then listen back later); but the more you play, the more you'll recognize note/tone combinations that you like. That will lead to either muscle memory or subconscious desire to repeat those patterns; and just make you a better overall player. Maybe even motivate you to play more, and keep building from there.
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#1903861 - 03/05/08 02:17 PM
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WOW! You guys, aren't giving up on me, or allowing me to give up on myself?
I have always loved music, I just never thought I was any good or could play myself. I've never really had any particular style of playing before? I have tired to do experimental music( John Cage, Edgar Varase, Valdamier Usachfseky), but I nver persued it. I have a tendency to give up rather easily. Although, there have been times when I have been persitant, to get something done.
I will give it a try. Of course my office/ so called studio is a mess at the momnet. I have a tendency, to just plop stuff everywhere. The floor, my desk, the day bed. Should clean up first.
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#1903874 - 03/05/08 02:42 PM
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Of course my office/ so called studio is a mess at the momnet. I have a tendency, to just plop stuff everywhere. The floor, my desk, the day bed. Should clean up first.
Sounds like a good idea.
I'm not talking from a hygiene POV...rather that people who tend to live in a somewhat disheveled/messy way...often have some underlying issues.
Hey...I'm not trying to be Dr, Phil!
And I have plenty of my own weirdness’s...but I do think that you may be dealing with stuff that you are not conscious of.
Maybe what someone suggested earlier...you should go talk to a doctor a bit.
Back in the early 90s I went through a year and a half of anxiety attacks...and I had no idea what was going on with me. Then one day after umpteen doctor visits looking for pathological issues...one doctor said..."I think you are having anxiety attacks and maybe the early stages of mild depression."
Well…as soon as he said that, it seemed my problems began to fade away! Once I knew it was nothing pathological, I was relived. And with the help of some anti-anxiety meds for a few months, the attacks went away, my heart stopped pounding 10 times a day…and I’ve never had it back since.
Oh…the other thing the doctor had me do…was adjust my diet to eating healthy…and to go for walks every day.
Boy…I think the walks did the most good! Really helps clear out the cobwebs.
So yeah…clean up…get organized…eat well…take a few walks…and maybe also go talk to your doctor, especially if already are experience some anxiety.
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#1903921 - 03/05/08 03:59 PM
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Actually, a couple of years ago, I did talk to my doctor about my anxity, and my rapid heart rate. He put me on Toperal, which lowers my heart rate and helps, with my, anxity as well. I have tarted to change my diet. especually after having surgury for a double hernia. as for walking, well I have not done it for a while. I just have to get into a routine.
Paul
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#1903968 - 03/05/08 05:27 PM
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Okay, well I have started to clean up my office/so called studio. I have some floor space, so I am not steping on stuff. Also I am not watching TV, at least not at the moment. I still have a few things to do, like organize my bill's to pay them. Also I have a bunch of DVD's that I am selling on half.com. So far only sold three. Been listening to jazz, while I clean up, which helps.
The downside is my office is small, so I don't really have room to put all of my keyboards out. Although I could put the controller keyboard out. Of course I would have to hook it up to something. Software synths are nice, but there is no real control. That's probably why my controller keyboard, Poly-61 and onmi stay in their boxes and cases's.
Paul
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#1903973 - 03/05/08 05:44 PM
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Thank you Miroslav!
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#1903978 - 03/05/08 05:51 PM
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Hey...I know some of what you are feeling.
Don't quit before you begin...and keep coming back here if you need some more positive juice.
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#1903985 - 03/05/08 06:07 PM
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I have been a memeber of various froums, but this is the first forum, where I have ever recived thie kind of encourgaement before. Thanks!
Paul
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#1904182 - 03/06/08 05:36 AM
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Might I add, another way to look at some of these things, is "baby steps"? Using cleaning up that room as an example, don't go, "oh $#!^! Look at all this I have to clean up!" Instead, focus on one small area or part of it, with specific steps if you can. Don't even think about the rest. Same goes for learning your instrument. Very few of us are Van Cliburn or some other virtuoso overnight, and even the best musicians will often say they aren't where they want to be. But if you can make progress and see it, and have fun doing it, that is what is important.
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#1904203 - 03/06/08 06:14 AM
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Not trying to make light of Paul's situation....(well maybe we should lighten things up just a bit )…
...but when you mentioned "baby steps", I couldn’t help thinking about that movie with Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss - "What About Bob?" 
Not sure if you've seen it...but it's a pisser, and "baby steps" are a key element in that movie.
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#1904388 - 03/06/08 09:54 AM
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Nope, not seen that one. I'll have to look for it.
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#1904696 - 03/06/08 03:14 PM
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I think routine is the key. You're in a lazy routine now and the fact you posted probably means you want to change on some level. Everyone here can say the right things and get you motivated through words but only you can motivate yourself and make the changes. Maybe try making the change gradual. Commit to playing or walking a few days a week for a short time and let the experience soak in. Then make the next step.
I went through a rut where I wasn't playing or doing anything. I decided at a specific time each day, I would dedicate it to practice. Over time the desire began to burn in me again as accomplishments started occuring. For me I just need to start and keep the routine going while giving up some of the things like TV and laziness that were running my life. Good luck to you Paul!
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#1904734 - 03/06/08 04:10 PM
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Well, I need to get out of the habbit, of just putting stuff down anywhere, instead of actually putting in it's proper place. Such as a folder, in my file cabinet. Or in a desk drawer, or if it's trash, to throw it away, or, if it's personal infromation to shred it.
Actually, before I posted I was about to give up, and leave this forum. Basicaly becuse I was trying to figure out why I am a member of a forum, that I am not really active on. looks like I will stay on here.
No, no please, make light of my situation. It's probabaly what I need right now anyway. The reason why I never posted on here much, was because, I thought everyone on here, were professional's, or were doing this as a living. Where as I, on the other hand, am not a professional. Guess I was wrong.
Well now, I need to figure out, what to do next?
Paul
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#1904765 - 03/06/08 05:30 PM
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Okay, well I have cleaned up, and it looks much better. Of course now, I need to consider buying a new desk chair. For the past 5 years, I have been sitting on a metal folding chair. While parcticle, it's not very comfortable. That would also explain, why I am not spending much time on the computer, or playing with my keyboards. Where, as wacthing TV, from my bed is comfortable. I figure, if I have a decent desk chair, I would spend more time in my office/studio, then I would in front of the TV.
Paul
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#1904777 - 03/06/08 06:05 PM
Re: Why I am a memeber of this Forum?
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Joe Muscara
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Don't look for excuses. Maybe you should get a new chair, but you can't let that hold you back.
There are a lot of people on these forums who are pros, but there are lots of weekend warriors, and people like me who do this just for fun. And we all share, just because.
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